| well done John !!!! seriously though debate is a really fine concept, though there are parameters !!! Barry!! Char has every prog known to man if you need any thing give her a shout ! apart from that lets just keep this forum nice and friendly, this is my second home and maybe the newbies (youngsters) get a bit uppity lets just say its over exuberance! Or a need to get their point across. Its up to us old uns to direct them and hopefully guide them to the path of knowledge (i cant believe im saying this lol) Any way Red!! this is the most friendliest and informed site on the web please respect the views of others as they respect yours !!!! nuff said |