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**GEEDUBBYA** · 26-03-2008

Howdy Again,

Well i was re-reading the thread and it hit me. There are facts about this model that we can't or shouldnt ignore. The main fact that sticks out in my mind is your statement "It has the serial number of PT201 on the hull so I am presuming it is a Higgins 78".
I believe that just because we cant find the yugoslavic designation for the MGB 181, doesnt mean that we should run off thinking that this model is instead a model of an Elco PT boat. Cleary if it has "PT-201" on the model it was intended to represent "PT-201".
But we must also remember the keyword in that last statement..."represent". Not all modellers are sticklers of detail, I know I myself have been known on many occassions to take certain liberties when making a model which in my opinion, made the model look better to me. I believe most all modellers are guilty of this and "guilty" may be a bad choice of terms here since we are not all re-creating historic pieces in detail.
I guess what i am saying is, I wouldnt go jumping to the conclusion that just because the photo of boat number 211 see in the picture I posted was different from the model you have.
We must remember that the idea of assembly lines wherein all finished goods turn out exactly the same, is or was at the time of wwII, still a developing technology. Even today, finished goods on assembly lines are not all exactly identical, especially in the fields of construction assembly lines such as boats, aircraft and automobiles. Although each of these items are created in an assembly line setting, each one is still built individually by people, people who make mistakes and create the need for "adaptation".
One need only look are items like the Ferrari, Rolls Royce or Harley davidson. Each of these items are created in an assembly line atmosphere, but are still each individually made. This creates some differences in each product from the previous or following product.
So, I guess what i am saying is that if it were me, I wouldnt go off on a tangient looking for an Elco MGB when we have the "PT-201" number from the model and have found plenty of supporting information for its existance.

Now i realize this posting was of very little value and was more of an opinion piece than anything, but, you should step back and evaluate the information you have vs. the information you have been able to find using the info you have. Like i said the PT-201 being on the model is a "fact", the model being in the UK, where PT-201 was transferred to is another "fact". So judging from both of those "facts" I would tend to believe that the model is infact a model of the 201/181 as you first believed and not a model of an Elco PT boat.

have a good day,

Greg

26-03-2008	#13 (permalink)
GEEDUBBYA Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pine Bluff, Arkansas Real Name: Greg My Models: model planes tanks and helicopters as well as missiles and rockets Visit GEEDUBBYA's Gallery Posts: 1,002 Images: 329	*Howdy Again,* *Well i was re-reading the thread and it hit me. There are facts about this model that we can't or shouldnt ignore. The main fact that sticks out in my mind is your statement "It has the serial number of PT201 on the hull so I am presuming it is a Higgins 78". I believe that just because we cant find the yugoslavic designation for the MGB 181, doesnt mean that we should run off thinking that this model is instead a model of an Elco PT boat. Cleary if it has "PT-201" on the model it was intended to represent "PT-201". But we must also remember the keyword in that last statement..."represent". Not all modellers are sticklers of detail, I know I myself have been known on many occassions to take certain liberties when making a model which in my opinion, made the model look better to me. I believe most all modellers are guilty of this and "guilty" may be a bad choice of terms here since we are not all re-creating historic pieces in detail. I guess what i am saying is, I wouldnt go jumping to the conclusion that just because the photo of boat number 211 see in the picture I posted was different from the model you have.* We must remember that the idea of assembly lines wherein all finished goods turn out exactly the same, is or was at the time of wwII, still a developing technology. Even today, finished goods on assembly lines are not all exactly identical, especially in the fields of construction assembly lines such as boats, aircraft and automobiles. Although each of these items are created in an assembly line setting, each one is still built individually by people, people who make mistakes and create the need for "adaptation". One need only look are items like the Ferrari, Rolls Royce or Harley davidson. Each of these items are created in an assembly line atmosphere, but are still each individually made. This creates some differences in each product from the previous or following product. So, I guess what i am saying is that if it were me, I wouldnt go off on a tangient looking for an Elco MGB when we have the "PT-201" number from the model and have found plenty of supporting information for its existance. Now i realize this posting was of very little value and was more of an opinion piece than anything, but, you should step back and evaluate the information you have vs. the information you have been able to find using the info you have. Like i said the PT-201 being on the model is a "fact", the model being in the UK, where PT-201 was transferred to is another "fact". So judging from both of those "facts" I would tend to believe that the model is infact a model of the 201/181 as you first believed and not a model of an Elco PT boat. *have a good day,* *Greg*