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Old 27-01-2005   #1 (permalink)
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My Razor - Fokker DViii/e

Thought I would post a couple of pics of the finished Fokker DViii.... Managed to get through the firewall problem with 3 degrees down and 3 to the right.
The kit was from the early 70's. My Dad had it packed away. I found it one night and thought it might be fun. The covering had been purchased for it as well and put in the box as well. AUW 39oz.





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Lucky to have got the lozenge covering, Coverite? Just a little detail, the under-surfaces were a variation of colours from the top. Without getting too pedantic if you change just one of the darker (green) bottom colours to pink or pale blue it will look surprisingly different to the top. Enough to confound the inevitable nit-pickers. This form of camoflage is very effective so beware when flying below the tree line. I had to add some colour to a Fokker Triplane to help visability because our flying field has mountain and forestry well above the normal horizon and the damn thing had to be flown by the iron crosses on the wing when below this! Much later I learned the Triplane didnt use lozenge camoflage ! In the UK good quality coloured rubber bands are used by banks and the food industry which will be less obvious for wing bands. They come in mid-blue,purple,dull red , ask around. Hope to see your flying pics in due course. Looking good so far.

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It’s a nice looking model you have there Mark.

Last year I acquired a part built Fokker Dviii of unknown origin but as it had a 57” wingspan I assumed it was from the Ben Buckle kit. The wing fixing and other details are identical to yours so it is likely to be from the same manufacturer, assuming yours is also 57” can you please tell me the manufacturer of your kit.

I am getting towards the end of my restoration of the PIK 20 but I’ll leave the painting until the weather gets a bit warmer and I can paint it in my garage with the doors open as I don’t like painting in a closed workshop, and the Fokker is next in line for finishing. I’m tempted to alter the wing mounting method to save having elastic bands across the top of the wing, but will put off this decision until nearer the time.

It will be interesting to hear how it flies.
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Mark she looks great,especially with the lozenge finish,I have a soft spot for the Fokker D.8 she has always proved an excellent flyer and I think that your own model will prove likewise,it looks like the Veron kit ? best of luck with this little beauty and look forward to seeing any flying shots of her that you can get someone to take,roll on the spring !
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TechyDave -
It is a Veron kit. The covering was in the box, along with all the hardware. My Dad was a collector of kits, and had a habit of purchasing everything required to complete each bird. I found fuel engines, props, vintage wheels, control horns, rods, etc in most of the kits.

20 mph wind this morning, 3 feet of hard packed snow on the ground, wind chill in the negative numbers. Probably wont be flying much until spring, but will make sure I have my camera in my flight box.
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TechyDave -
It is a Veron kit. The covering was in the box, along with all the hardware. My Dad was a collector of kits, and had a habit of purchasing everything required to complete each bird. I found fuel engines, props, vintage wheels, control horns, rods, etc in most of the kits.

20 mph wind this morning, 3 feet of hard packed snow on the ground, wind chill in the negative numbers. Probably wont be flying much until spring, but will make sure I have my camera in my flight box.
*** The fact that your father collected the bits together Mark makes it extra special,you are completing a model that he dreamed of flying,wait for a perfectly calm day to test your creation and this will reward you handsomly and give a true indication of the models trim.
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It is a Veron kit.

20 mph wind this morning, 3 feet of hard packed snow on the ground, wind chill in the negative numbers. Probably wont be flying much until spring, but will make sure I have my camera in my flight box.
Thanks for that Mark, is your model 57" wingspan the same as mine?

When I saw '3 feet of hard packed snow on the ground' I initially thought you must be up in the north of Scotland but I'm not sure they have that much up there, but I see that you are from the good old US of A - do you live up a mountain and is this normal for a winter in MN?
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Thanks for that Mark, is your model 57" wingspan the same as mine?

When I saw '3 feet of hard packed snow on the ground' I initially thought you must be up in the north of Scotland but I'm not sure they have that much up there, but I see that you are from the good old US of A - do you live up a mountain and is this normal for a winter in MN?

Well, a normal winter in MN is 60-70 inches. We actually set a record in early January by going the longest periord without a snow fall event of over 1 inch. Temps drop in November, and once it snows its here until late April. This year we actually made it until Christmas before we got any snow locally. I have seen 30+ inches fall on Halloween, so its hit and miss. By the way, the wingspan is 46". Have you had any issues during flight where the model wants to stall when turning. I have seen a few threads mentioning it and the Dviii ?
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Well, a normal winter in MN is 60-70 inches. We actually set a record in early January by going the longest periord without a snow fall event of over 1 inch. Temps drop in November, and once it snows its here until late April. This year we actually made it until Christmas before we got any snow locally. I have seen 30+ inches fall on Halloween, so its hit and miss. By the way, the wingspan is 46". Have you had any issues during flight where the model wants to stall when turning. I have seen a few threads mentioning it and the Dviii ?
*** Nothing untoward with the D.VIII Mark,however like all draggy short nosed WW.1 types best to power the model into the turn,at the same time ease up the nose gently,you will soon get the hang of it,my later Ben Buckle D.VIII ( actually the old Earl Stahl plan revamped ) would spin nicely but in all fairness she had wingtip washout and recovery was fine,it sounds as if they are trying to fly them too slowly into the turn,in this situation a lot of machines will drop a wing if not checked,however she is a good old stable parasol design and nothing nasty should happen providing that your centre of gravity is well within limits,ie not tail heavy.
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Thanks Barry -
My CG is perfect, and I was surprised to find the my final AUW was actually exactly as spec'd on the plans. My rudder and elevator max throws are just as spec'd as well. I am hoping for good things this spring.
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