Sd.Kfz. 251/1 Ausf.c Half track interior colour

phill burrows · 08-10-2007

Hi

I am just starting out on a Tamiya Sd.Kfz. 251/1 Ausf.c.

I have never made anything other than aircraft before now, but wanted a new challenge.

Can anyone suggest a colour for the interior of the half track? I am going to go for the German Grey colour scheme, but am unsure if this would have been used inside also. I can't find much reference material.

Also, when building this, would you fit the whole thing together before spraying inside, or spray in the internal parts before gluing together?

many thanks

pb

**rjwood_uk** · 08-10-2007

generally you would paint the interior first as well as all the small external parts. put it all togeather. mask off the bits you dont want the outsite colour to go on (tracks/wheels/interior...etc) paint it, let it dry. stick all the final little bits on and hey presto.

alan2525 · 08-10-2007

Here's a very thorough account of the colours used for the interiors of German Panzers:

http://miniatures.de/html/int/camouf...-interior.html

There's an example at Bovington Tank Museum, the interior is actually Painted Ivory, Pale Beige - apparently RAL 1001 with Grey green floor (very similar to outside grey of vehicle) The stowage containers are all grey as per the outside and any equipment parts are semi gloss black. Appologies fot the quality of the pic but I was poking my camera against the view slit in the rear door - I just knew someone on this forum would want to know what it looked like inside!

Here's a link to some images of the outside of the same vehicle:

http://ampsnz.hobbyvista.com/realafv...51/Bov251c.htm

I would have thought that the Sdkfz 251 being open topped would have been painted the same colour inside as the exterior of the vehicle. It'd be nice if you could try to keep more of a factory look to the inside of the hull, just weathering the flooring and the outsides of the vehicle.

phill burrows · 08-10-2007

Hi Alan

this is great, thanks.

I went to Bovington last summer with the kids, but didn't take many pictures. I must remember to do that next time. I love the museum though, a great day out!

I will study the pics and take your advice, I was planning the floor tonight. Just some nice simple wear and tear needed i think, nothing too drastic.

Phill

phill burrows · 09-10-2007

Hi

another question relating to how to weather effects on a model like this...

If the outer is sprayed in German Panzer Grey, should I use a lighter shade in the centres of the panels to look like paint fade? Or should I be looking at some Mig Pigment?

I will experiment and post some pictures when it is ready

thanks

Phill

**rjwood_uk** · 09-10-2007

instead of using a lighter tone it would be easier to use the same tone and then dry brush or use pastels/pigments to give the worn effect with a lighter shade

phill burrows · 10-10-2007

thanks for your reply.

Do you think that using something like talc or crushed chalk pastel is ok to create the effect?

What would you then add as a final layer? A Matt varnish or something?

**rjwood_uk** · 10-10-2007

get down to your local art/craft/hobby store and get some artists pastels (make sure their not oil) you can hundreds of shades or you can get your basic earth tone or primary colours and mix them up.

to use them, rubb them down on some sandpaper making sure you have something under it to collect all the pigments. you can mix this as if it were pain to get the right tone.

you could use a matt varnish but if your going to be using pastels it would have to be a spray.

for the best results you might want to try giving your model a matt varnish first, then adding the weathering. then spraying with hair spray. hair spray seals in all the pastels but does not change the colour of them like a lot of spray cotes can.

hope this makes sence and helps.

phill burrows · 11-10-2007

well here is my work so far.

Not quite in the league as some of you guys, but this is my first ever attempt with an airbrush and my first attempt at creating any worn/weathering effects.

Your advice/comments would be helpful

not all of the wheel axels are turning freely so I am thinking about taking it apart and re-doing it. Thoughts?

**rjwood_uk** · 12-10-2007

nooo dont rip it apart.

to be honest are you going to be playing with it and pushing it along the carpet?

i have always stuck to the option not allowing anything to move that is designed to move in a kit. tamiya are renowed for it, wheels, stabalisers, rotor blades....etc. if it can move...it can break. glue them in a fixed position that your happy with!

just my two cence.

jooking good by the way. nice even layer of paint, no over spray. nice job