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Old 18-08-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Issue 85-The first wheel arrives & we get to grips with some assembly work.

ISSUE 85-Wheels.

Issue 85 contains one main wheel,a bit long winded supplying one wheel a week but there you go,assembling these wheels is a fairly simple operation involving glueing the two main halves together,spraying the hubs red and pressing on the tyres,the spindle just needs a little clean up to make sure the wheels spin freely.
In view of this lack of anything to do on the model I decided that it was time to do a bit of assembly work,obviously they are holding back because they imagine everyone is intending to cover their creation,not myself as there is just too much work in this model to get covered up,so I set about assembling the tail,as outlined in issue 84 the tail struts need alteration as they will not fit as supplied,quite frankly a trip down to the local model shop to purchase some streamlined strut material would be a better option,then to crimp the ends and attach them.The strut locations where they meet the tailplane are incorrect but there is not a lot that can be done about this dilemma,they actually attach to the elevator brackets but this is not feasible to do on our model,next was the rudder,the brackets supplied are very brittle and snapped on mine,I made some new and better ones up from brass strip bent around a piece of piano wire and glued them into place with epoxy,also note that I have added a small piece of wood to the sternpost,this allows a groove to be cut for the rudder horns otherwise they bottom out against the metal sternpost when the rudder is moved,here is a view of this area-

The elevator horns have yet to be added as I am not sure of their exact position yet,once the exit cable points are clear then they will be fitted,a final run around all of the tail attachment points with araldite completed the operation.
Next I decided to fix the fuel tank,this was fairly traightforward except for a bit of juggling with the brackets,then came the ammo box which would not bridge between the upper longerons,this was soon rectified with two pieces of brass tube cut into two,these were inserted like collets into the existing brackets,this rectified this area,to show where the guns locate I have simply aligned them into the ammo box,the ejector chute arrangement is not strictly correct and eventually I will make a new box,but this will suffice to help people who want to use the parts supplied.
You will notice that my mid wing is screwed into position,to do this I made a ply bridge between the upper longerons and held it in place with thin litho plate bent around the edges and epoxied into place,the fuel tank also is screwed into place with one tiny screw so everything can be dismantled if required later.
This is what this area now looks like-

Note that the mid bracket attached to the fuel tank is doing nothing,it should actually reach between the upper longerons ! the reason for this is that it was made too short in the first place,as it is firmly attached to he tank I need to work out how to extend it.

Here is a view from the rear of the same assembly,the rudder bar has still to be fitted.

And finally could not resist adding the upper wings to see what she will look like,the interplane struts simply plug into slots in the spars.
At long last she is starting to look like an aeroplane,it has been over one and a half years since this part works first started,the two year supply of parts is just too long and many people have already lost interest in this project,it would have been better to have supplied double the parts and finish the series in one year,the general publics interest has waned.
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Looking through some old Aeroplane Monthly magazines I found some quite useful cutaway drawings of various fixtures and fittings. The January 2003 issue shows wingtip skid attachments,wing attachment, cable guides, engine bulkhead,rudder and tailplane. Plus a nice detail drawing of the control grip.

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wonwinglow,
Looking through some old Aeroplane Monthly magazines I found some quite useful cutaway drawings of various fixtures and fittings. The January 2003 issue shows wingtip skid attachments,wing attachment, cable guides, engine bulkhead,rudder and tailplane. Plus a nice detail drawing of the control grip.

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*** Yes Trevor,it is surprising just how much detail can be added to what we have already,I must have those drawings myself somewhere will have to dig out my 'Fokker' folder.
We have had a temporary glitch here in the UK as the promised wheels have not turned up,Hachette say this is 'Production difficulties' whatever that is supposed to mean ? one would have thought that producing simple diecast wheel centres would have been an easy task.So this weeks issue did not surface and we await those wheels.
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I paid just over a $1,000 Australian for this piece of moderated that they have the hide to call a model,my 6 yr old boy could do a better job than the mob wo brought this thing out nothing has gone right, right from the very beginning nothing fits as it should and the tailend is all bend out of shape, I may have to pull the whole pieceof moderated down again for the 4th time and start from scratch hoping it will go back OK otherwise it's $1,000 down the drain and my wife will not be happy.


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Russell,calm down now ! you will burst a blood vessel at this rate,the whole point of the Red Baron thread was to explain how to put to rights the numerous problems encountered with this model,despite the poor quality components,badly fitting parts etc a full and succinct explanation is given week by week to rectify the various pitfalls along the way,you can see that if followed carefully a decent looking model will evolve,in fact quite a few really good models have emerged of this project,it is really down to the individual modeller to tackle the problems along the way,if it was a rattle the bits to get results model,then this is certainly not the one ! my advice is to study the various tutorials on building this model,week by week and then a fuller understanding of how things can be rectified will emerge,in other words use the model purely as a basis to build a impressive looking Fokker Dr.1 Triplane,a challenge yes,but impossible no.
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Yea it might be viewed by children, that doesn't give the manufacturers the right to put out such a piece a of rubbish that someone has to build a whole website dedicated to correting things if plastic car builders did that they'd be out of busness at lleast there I don't have to correct the shape of a car or truck to get it right or nodify a pieces to make it fit properly. It's just a pian have to throw a $1,000+ in the corner and watch it rot because I don't have the time to correct what the pommes couldn't do right in the first place.
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Clearly not a model for yourself,but lets correct a few things firstly the kit was not designed by Pommes as you call them ! the basic design was copied from the excellent Japanese Hasaegawa offering by a Spanish company to make it suitable for part works,further work was done in France and finally distributed on the UK market by Hachette and followed up by other distributors in South Africa,New Zealand and Australia,the latter company know our feelings on the absymal quality,this is why there is no way that I would even think of embarking on the latest Bismark offering or for that matter correcting faults weekly on their behalf as was the case with the Red Baron,at £700 I would sooner buy a billing boat kit with fittings for something interesting.
I suggest that instead of venting your anger towards this model here, you put pen to paper and write to the distributors themselves,not that you will get any satisfactory reply if any ?
There are quite a few kits that have been marketed that need work necessary to bring them up to scratch,that is what modelling is all about,it just so happens that the Red Baron was of exceptionaly poor quality,but having said that the numerous improvements and notes which took me personally hours of dedicated work proved that with care and attention a completed model could be achieved.
I would also respectfully remind you that bad language will not be tolerated here,regardless of how strongly you feel about any product.

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