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11-11-2004
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#41 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Just to show I'm not all that mean, here is an easier one to go on with. | *** Commonwealth Ceres,built from Wirraway airframe. |
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11-11-2004
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#42 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Sorry, The Australian Transavia Airtruck , among other differences, is powered by a Continental IO- 540.
While you're working on it have a think about this. | *** Emair Diablo. |
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11-11-2004
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| | Scale Model Member | Close enough, it's actually the prototype Murrayair MA-1
Built by Air New Zealand, modified from a Stearman with a P&W R.1340, increased wing area, all metal center section with enlarged fuel tank, greater wing spacing and hefty struts instead of flying and landing wires. Load capacity was doubled. Taken to Hawaii where a further 27 were built as the MA-1"Paymaster" powered by a R.1820. Production moved to Harlingen TX as the MA-1B "Diablo 1200', with an even bigger engine, 48 of which were built.
To put you out of your misery the other is the Waitomo Airtruck. Designed by Luigi Pellarini ,Two were built in New Zealand by Bennet Aviation, utilising surplus Harvard parts. Pellarini then took the design to Australia where it was refined into the Transavia Airtruck. Designed so that the fertiliser loader can drive between the booms to load the hopper, hence no joining tailplane.
I'll see if I can find something else.
Nev |
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12-11-2004
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#44 (permalink)
| | Scale Model Member | What do you make of this then?
Last edited by Kiwi; 12-11-2004 at 12:19..
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12-11-2004
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#45 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Kiwi What do you make of this then? | *** Is it an Hawker Siddeley 748 ( Andover) with a very rearward c of g ? if not then it is probably a YS-11 ?
Just had a thought,they made a 748 for the military that used to kneel.
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12-11-2004
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#46 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Close enough, it's actually the prototype Murrayair MA-1
Built by Air New Zealand, modified from a Stearman with a P&W R.1340, increased wing area, all metal center section with enlarged fuel tank, greater wing spacing and hefty struts instead of flying and landing wires. Load capacity was doubled. Taken to Hawaii where a further 27 were built as the MA-1"Paymaster" powered by a R.1820. Production moved to Harlingen TX as the MA-1B "Diablo 1200', with an even bigger engine, 48 of which were built.
To put you out of your misery the other is the Waitomo Airtruck. Designed by Luigi Pellarini ,Two were built in New Zealand by Bennet Aviation, utilising surplus Harvard parts. Pellarini then took the design to Australia where it was refined into the Transavia Airtruck. Designed so that the fertiliser loader can drive between the booms to load the hopper, hence no joining tailplane.
I'll see if I can find something else.
Nev | *** Bennett that was the name that was eluding me,I knew that it had been built from Harvard bits and even remember seeing a photograph many years ago,I just could not get away from the Transavia connection,nice one Neville it taxed me I can tell you ! please dig out some more elusives,no matter how rare they are or were.
Was I right about the Commonwealth Ceres ? made from a Wirraway airframe.
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12-11-2004
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| | Scale Model Member | #44 was bit of a leg pull. When I worked for Mt Cook Airline, the fin of the HS 748 was taller than the hangar doors. For overnight servicing we had a cut out to fit the fin but because of the tie rods acros the hangar they would only just fit. For bigger servicing we moved them right in and put the fin between the rods. This is how we did it, with a steel rig under the nose gear and a couple of hired forklifts. Got interesting the time one ran out of fuel and the hydraulic pressure slowly decayed! |
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12-11-2004
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| | Scale Model Member | Later on we built a scissors lifter (using a screwed rod and a starter motor) and used an aircraft tug to move them which was slightly less stressful.
Yes you were right with the Ceres!
More later |
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12-11-2004
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| amazing !!
i knew not one of these aircraft at all.
however i`m interested in what i`m seeing
keep `em coming
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13-11-2004
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#50 (permalink)
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| Yes Neville,tax us to the limit on aircraft recognition,sometimes it is the ones taken at unusual angles that prove the most difficult.
Do you have an interest in agricultural aircraft ?
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