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Old 17-05-2006   #11 (permalink)
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Also these little models provide useful small items to build a scratch built that utilises motor,fittings etc when you get fed up of the foamie,the wiring is a work of art on the multi engine models which I ripped apart and made sketches for my own designs.
The biggest drawback is that you need to wait for fine calm weather and make the most of those slots,they are very light and will not penetrate too breezy conditions,early morning or late evening is the best time to fly them,always have them on standby and make the most of better days to fly.
Interesting that the BMFA has not had a single claim for insurance on any park flyer to date,they are so light that they just bounce,the foam absorbs any shocks.
As Duncan points out just make sure that there are no local clubs within range,whilst the rx are mostly short range,the tx is not.
There are a lot of places that you can fly that would not be possible with IC power,certainly they have been my saver around here with houses being built everywhere.
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Old 18-05-2006   #12 (permalink)
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My experience with local flying model clubs have not been very positive so whilst I am still a member of the national club for insurance purposes I am convinced that I am going to have to learn to fly on my own. I waited for many meetings for someone to help me learn to fly my first model and got fed up with watching too many people showing off with helicopters, fast electric models etc. Eventually I tried my model on my own and it was in the air for about thirty seconds. It went straight in the bin after that.
I have to agree with this! My local club is VERY clichey and if one doesnt spend £££££'s on heli parts, transmitters that have better LCD panels than my pc and rocket powered jets they dont want to know, let alone get you into the hobby! Im just VERY lucky to live in the middle of nowhere with miles of fields i can use to fly in.....learning of course is a totally different matter!

Theres so many RTF's to choose from now! But as barry and richard have said that cessna looks the best bet. The hardest part of learning for me was controling the aircraft when it was flying towards me and getting used to the inverted controls!

SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC- Can you get Tx's now that auto invert the controls when the aircraft is flying away from you or am i in the realms of sci-fi now?
 
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No need Squiffy,when the model is coming towards you and the wing drops,just push the stick in the same direction as the wing dropping,once you get used to it ,it is easy,different with helicopters though,hovering in takes some practise,once again the simulator comes in handy for this.
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my son has the 2nd one down !- bought for him this christmas by grandma from a toy shop,

this gives some insight into the type of model it is,
it is 95% ready to go,
it is in the grand scheme of things a cheap plane ,
it is basically a toy with big ideas...

but in its defence it is alot of fun for the money,

it is controlled/ turned by decreasing motor power on one of the motor pods, it is also basic in its operation but fire up both motors on full throttle and this thing will happily fly.... it is very forgiving in the hands of a novice and his son ! and if you hit the deck ( and we do regually) it bounces,
the drawbacks i see are generally radio/ power based, despite everything it says on the box, radio range is limited, so you end up flying the model round and round yourself, it is easy to fly out of range.... the plane then usually drifts off and comes to the ground in a glide path !- my guess is range is 120 ft max.... it only flies well on still days..... and i mean still zero breeze !

the motor pack needs charging frequently, the cells are cheap and duration of flight is under 10 mins- usually around 8 mins....

but it is tough, no matter how many times we nose dive and hit the deck it gets up for more !- its not an ideal way to learn to fly as basically it does not fly under the 'normal' style of control- you do not have 100% proportional control over the flight surfaces,

but if you want a cheap fun 'plaything' for summer days in the park then this fits the bill - its a giggle and a bit of fun.....

but not something i would take to the local aero club- they would laugh at you !

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I have to agree with this! My local club is VERY clichey and if one doesnt spend £££££'s on heli parts, transmitters that have better LCD panels than my pc and rocket powered jets they dont want to know, let alone get you into the hobby! Im just VERY lucky to live in the middle of nowhere with miles of fields i can use to fly in.....learning of course is a totally different matter!

Theres so many RTF's to choose from now! But as barry and richard have said that cessna looks the best bet. The hardest part of learning for me was controling the aircraft when it was flying towards me and getting used to the inverted controls!

SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC- Can you get Tx's now that auto invert the controls when the aircraft is flying away from you or am i in the realms of sci-fi now?


Squiffy,

Interesting concept but how would it know whether it weas flying towards you ar not. And if it did how would it control when it was flying tangentially to you and how would you deal with the point at which it changed over?

Nice idea but I can see some challenges with it!
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Squiffy,

Interesting concept but how would it know whether it weas flying towards you ar not. And if it did how would it control when it was flying tangentially to you and how would you deal with the point at which it changed over?

Nice idea but I can see some challenges with it!

LOL, i have no idea bunk, was more of a "wonder if you can get these..." thought!

As for the re-orintational a simple compass would work if the rx and tx had the same setup, then using micros you could invert controls as to direction. As for tangents im not sure....lol..


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Squiffy, Thanks for the laugh! I need them at the moment.

I used to sail with a Second Engineer who always used to say "OK, I'll get my coat now" when he had dug himself into a hole. I think it is such an amusing expression!
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Just look at the times that people have navigated towards a radio beacon,only to find out later that they have flown beyond and over it ! red faces all around.
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