Go Back   Scale Models > General Chat > Chit-Chat

Notices

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 19-05-2006   #1 (permalink)
Registered Member
 
rjwood_uk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hertfordshire
Real Name: Richard
My Models: Special Designs and Patches to match
Visit rjwood_uk's Gallery
Posts: 2,230
Images: 95
Question Air Compressor

Ok guys, i figure im going to need to get a compressor sooner or later

can you guys please tell me what i need to look for

eg: what psi range, price, make, model.

i know i need a regulator and water trap but even so they can be baught seperatly.

just need some general advice, tips.

let me know what compressors you guys have, how you rate them and what would be ideal for me

and a point i would like to ephesise...i dont really want to be spending a great deal of money on one....deffinatly not more than £100

so if anyone can point out a decent one on ebay or know anyone who is selling one/seen one at a regular stall at a boot sale or something that would be great!

thanks.

Richard
rjwood_uk is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 20-05-2006   #2 (permalink)
Moderator
 
wonwinglo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Warwick,UK
Real Name: Barry
My Models: Aviation artifacts
Visit wonwinglo's Gallery
Posts: 5,579
Images: 49
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINI-DIAPHRAGM...QQcmdZViewItem

This is what you want RJW,get you bid in,you should be able to get it reasonable as there are about 5 of these on at the moment.
__________________
'And there I was oil on my goggles from a broken pipe,then I looked at the altimeter,all I could see was the makers name !'
www.wonwinglo.scale-models.net/
wonwinglo is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2006   #3 (permalink)
Registered Member
 
rjwood_uk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hertfordshire
Real Name: Richard
My Models: Special Designs and Patches to match
Visit rjwood_uk's Gallery
Posts: 2,230
Images: 95
thanks Barry, that looks and sounds great!

unfortunatly....no money untill next month, hopefully there will be some more up then!!!
rjwood_uk is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2006   #4 (permalink)
Moderator
 
wonwinglo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Warwick,UK
Real Name: Barry
My Models: Aviation artifacts
Visit wonwinglo's Gallery
Posts: 5,579
Images: 49
***There will be more on e-bay,just place 'Diaphram Compressor' into the search box when you are ready for one,I think this chap is dealing in them,mine cost £150 all those years ago,and has no water trap or pressure gauge,so this is a really good buy,they are so quiet as well.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rjwood_uk
thanks Barry, that looks and sounds great!

unfortunatly....no money untill next month, hopefully there will be some more up then!!!
__________________
'And there I was oil on my goggles from a broken pipe,then I looked at the altimeter,all I could see was the makers name !'
www.wonwinglo.scale-models.net/
wonwinglo is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2006   #5 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Bunkerbarge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Halifax, Yorks: Nassau, Bahama's:Port Canaveral, USA: and all points in between.
Real Name: Richard
My Models: Robbe U-47, Deans Marine Cossack, Steam Coaster, Revell U-Boat, Motorcycles.
Visit Bunkerbarge's Gallery
Posts: 3,664
Images: 230
Smile

Good Grief!!, you can't go wrong at that price can you?

I'm sure mine cost somewhere in the region of 120.00 quid a couple of years ago. Still, I bought it from an art shop and they have always known how to charge!
Bunkerbarge is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2006   #6 (permalink)
Registered Member
 
rjwood_uk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hertfordshire
Real Name: Richard
My Models: Special Designs and Patches to match
Visit rjwood_uk's Gallery
Posts: 2,230
Images: 95
yes it does seem like a very good buy, thanks alot for the point in the right direction.
rjwood_uk is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 28-08-2006   #7 (permalink)
Scale Model Member
 
alan2525's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Essex, UK
Real Name: Alan
My Models: Anything that isn't worth throwing out
Visit alan2525's Gallery
Posts: 928
Images: 39
I’m getiting back into scale modeling after a break of some years, and thinking I should finally get around to purchasing an airbrush and compressor after seeing the results that can be achieved.

I’ve narrowed down the airbrush choice but have a couple of questions regarding the choice of compressor and regulator / filter etc.

The compressor I’ve purchased is a Werther International



The manual states:

“Output is 70lpm free air delivered, maximum pressure is 50psi (3.5bar) but running pressure is less as an air bleed must be fitted to this machine and ultimate working pressure depends on size of nozzle assembly used. 150 watt shaded pole motor, thermally protected, on/off switch, for the occasional user (not continuously rated). “

I’m a little unsure of what is meant by an air bleed – it seems the regulator which can be used is one of two types, the regulator can either restrict the air to lower the psi or alternatively bleed some of the air to the atmosphere at the regulator and limit the air flowing to the compressor. The images below show the two types.



My question is – what is the difference in these types of diaphragm compressor available, all seem to be designed for airbrushing whilst some seem to mention this air bleed thing.

What experience do you have regarding these compressors? Any advice would be welcome. I already have the first type of regulator pictured above - would I damage the compressor if I fitted this type?
alan2525 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 29-08-2006   #8 (permalink)
Registered Member
 
rjwood_uk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hertfordshire
Real Name: Richard
My Models: Special Designs and Patches to match
Visit rjwood_uk's Gallery
Posts: 2,230
Images: 95
i have the one in the second picture, it came with my compressor from everthingairbrush.

i too have no idea what is ment by "bleeding" the air. but these two are not the compressors they pressure regulators and water traps. now i know on the 2nd one there is a little thing on the bottom you press to release the water that collecs and im guessing that is whats at the bottom of your one ( the silver bit ) so maybe it means bleeding the water not the air?

just an idea.

Richard
rjwood_uk is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 29-08-2006   #9 (permalink)
Scale Model Member
 
alan2525's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Essex, UK
Real Name: Alan
My Models: Anything that isn't worth throwing out
Visit alan2525's Gallery
Posts: 928
Images: 39
I had a look at the second type of regulator - it's described as a Bleed type regulator:

1/4" BSP Swivel nut air inlet to attach to compressor
1/8" BSP Male outlet to attach suitable airhose
100 PSI (7 BAR) Pressure gauge
50 micron filter to remove particulates and moisture from air supply
One-touch water drain
Bleed type regulator to reduce pressure

I assume it must vent air to stop some kind of back pressure building up against the diaphragm in the compressor or something. I just wondered why it seemed to mention this specifically with the Werther Compressor I purchased - maybe it's just a bit pony - might cause it to overheat or something if the airflow is restricted or something?

I also found this when I was looking for more info online, this compressor has internal bleeding - Can anyone help clarify what all this means? I'm sure it'd pretty much work by just screwing a regulator on the outlet but it's nice to understand why some things work and others work better:

CYCLONE I MODEL 180-1

Portable 1/12 HP oil-less diaphragm type compressor has internal bleed,
allowing use with any make air brush
. It is compact, lightweight and quiet
and can be carried form room to room. Maximum running pressure Approx.
28 PSI. (1.93 bar)

Additional Specifications:
Motor: 115 volts, 60 Hz, 2.5 amp
Dimensions: 8 ¼” L X 4 ¾” W X 7” H (21 X 12 X 18 cm)
Shipping Weight: 9 lbs (4.08 kg).
22.5L/min @ 1.38 bar

Last edited by alan2525; 29-08-2006 at 01:37.
alan2525 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 29-08-2006   #10 (permalink)
Registered Member
 
rjwood_uk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hertfordshire
Real Name: Richard
My Models: Special Designs and Patches to match
Visit rjwood_uk's Gallery
Posts: 2,230
Images: 95
not sure there sorry, i notice it says 1/8" BSP Male outlet to attach suitable airhose.

i didnt get that info with mine and had no idea what size it was going to be or what size the hose i got with my badger airbrush was so i now have to wait to get some adaptors. but now knowing that its 1/8" helps me alot thanks!!!

and i have lost my adaptor for use with "cans of air" so i cant do any spraying. my bradger is getting lonely.lol
rjwood_uk is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:12.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2004 - 2008 Scale Model Forums
Free Credit Reports | Zippo Lighters | Loans | Credit Counseling | Consolidation
ServInt Internet Services