wonwinglo

EBAY'S NEW DOUBLE SECRET ANTI COUNTERFEIT POLICY
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With new lawsuits filed by trademarked brand name and patent holders rolling in all the time, ebaY has finally had to face the fact that they must do something about the counterfeit items and fakes being sold on their site. ebaY profits from those illegal sales, and one day a court is going to confirm the illegality of profiting from fraud and theft, and ebaY will be held to account. Forced to the wall, ebaY is implementing some steps that might actually have a positive affect on the multitude of fakes listed on the site. Of course ebaY is implementing this in a typically ebaY way, secretly (so no deterrent value), unannounced (so in effect without being posted on the site without adequate notice and in violation of the user agreement) and with what is sure to hurt legitimate sellers with ebaY usual response to falsely accused sellers - no appeal process in place and sellers put out of business with no recourse and no way to prove their legitimacy.
So far this appears to be intentionally "leaked" information - nothing posted on ebaY's site that could be found - so it is sure to change before ebaY actually posts a policy - even though the secret policy is supposed to be active now.
The components of the plan allegedly consist of ebaY developing a list of commonly faked goods (kept secret) and screening anyone who sells these items. Anyone who sells items on this secret list will have to be PayPal verified (but not required to offer PayPal as payment). Sellers of the items on the secret list will have to undergo an ebaY review - but they wont know it until they are blocked from selling items, and who knows how long ebaY will take to do the review. Sellers will not be able to use 1 or 3 day listings for items on the secret list. many have been saying for yearsthat there is no reason to allow 1 day listings for anything and that 3 day listings should also be eliminated or restricted. One and three day listings are favored by thieves, scammers and con artists, who delight in the ability to get their victims snared before anyone can report the fraud. Even when reported, ebaY does not react fast enough to eliminate the listing before it ends. The best part of this plan is that ebaY is restricting some cross border trade and some in country sales.
Sellers in China, including Hong Kong, will not be able to sell items on the secret list. This is probably an early indicator that ebaY is throwing in the towel on the China market, and many would not be surprised to see ebaY backtracking on their investment etc in China, giving Yahoo another victory.
Many say that it is about time that E-bay stood up to their responsibilities in the marketplace,and to that end should be held more responsible for some of the scams now in place from countries such as Nigeria,the top heavy empire not only needs to keep its customers,but to make the place safer for selling.

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Bunkerbarge

Ebay have ignored thier responsibilities to fair trading openly so far.

I can see one problem with what you are suggesting though Barry, they are going to have to actually communicate with some of thier members and that seems to be against thier whole business ethic!!!

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alan2525

I once listed some items on Ebay and for the technical details I copied content from the manufacturers website.

The company actually removed my listings as the content i.e. the description of the content was copyright owned by them.

It's a bit like trying to sell a Car - say a Ford Escort and not being able to use the description...or any copyright or trademarked names.

Medium Sized family car, by popular manufacturer, engine size smaller than 1400cc but larger than 1200cc...

I find it a little odd that companies actually employ people to trawl ebay and then have any listings which step on their copyright removed. Actually being paid to sit at a computer and look at Ebay...I think thats most office jobs nowadays!

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Bluewavestudios

Hi Guys,

There is an easy way around this, if you suspect or know counterfeit goods are being sold on ebay then inform the original copyright holder/manufacturer...it's not hard, all it takes is a simple e-mail to tell them with the item number as well if you have it.

I did this recently with a Sample DVD I bought for my music making, when I received the DVD, I found it to be a blatant copy of the Official DVD I had bought just 3 weeks earlier despite the advert on ebay promising all new samples....needless to say I was not happy !!!
I notified the Manufacturers of the Official DVD via e-mail and it was withdrawn from ebay immediately.
It does work !!!

Regards......Mark

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new to trains

what i hate is in listings when people say like airfix or like tamiya, this could be misleading to the uninitiated...

dodgy, either the goods are made by tamiya or they are not !- sellers should state facts on thier listings, not vague opinions !

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Bunkerbarge

Don't you think they deliberately describe them like that to mislead? It also ensures that the items are picked up by more searches if they use brand names in thier descriptions. How many times do you see, "Not Tamiya" or "Not Airfix"? I have always been certain that is specifically to ensure that the items are picked up in more searches.

Call me old and cynical but I am certain that it is not an accident.

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wonwinglo

You will never,ever get a true and satisfactory answer from E-bay,instead of paying people proper wages they get around this by employing people who work from home,these people answer questions sent to E-bay via standard notifications which are useless,the ultimate insult is 'Question 13' which is sent out when they are unable to put the questions answer in any other category,a bunch of monkeys could do the job better.
Pay-pal do the same and you are always passed over to them in the event of a complaint when paid for by this means,the expiry time is too soon and once this has passed you are unable to pursue the question or problem.
It is a flustrating shambles of self engineered answers that get you nowhere.
And then to cap it all the then send out an e-mail asking how did they do ?!!
One of my listings had 'Hornby Princess Elizabeth' they took it down saying that it was misleading ?
E-bay has become too big for its own boots,I do not wish to become part and parcel of any silly E-bay community,just want to buy and sell honestly with a proper team to speak to about any problem.

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