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Old 20-02-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Keying Brass prior to painting loco chassis and parts

Painting Brass loco chassis and parts.

Some Non Ferrous Metals dont seem to take paint too well, particularly Aluminium and Brass. I'm going to use an acid etching primer but wondered if it was worth blasting the items to make a key for the paint. What grit would you use for brass. I'd want something non aggressive, just to give a satin sheen rather than a pitted surface!

Otherwise I'd just abrade the surface with wet and dry and make sure it's grease free prior to the primer which will probably suffice!
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Howdy Alan,

When i worked at the transformer factory (the ones on poles, not the robots), we "shot blasted" (sand blasted) all the conductors, we used aluminum oxide and we also used a silica bead media. The aluminum oxide is more coarse and leaves the metals abit pitted, however it is a consistant pitting all over.
On the other hand, the silica beads or "glass beads" as we called them left a better finish, one that could be polished easily.
Now we used both of these materials on copper and aluminum as well as brass but, I know from my experience with painting an aluminum boat or two, you can "wipe it down" with vinegar before painting. The vinegar removes the osidation and allows the paint to stick.
So, i guess what i am trying to suggest would be for you to use either the silica shot (glass beads) or you might try the vinegar on the brass, I havent tried it, but it might work.


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I know that Salt and Vinegar works well at removing the oxidisation from copper but haven't tried it on brass. Thanks for the advice.

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Good on fish and chips as well Alan.

I do a fair amount of brass painting, and all I do is flat the surface down with 400 W&D, chemi clean with cellulose thinners, then etch prime. Sticks like the proverbial to a blanket. The etch primer will automatically key into the surface.

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Its Me again,

One more thing you might try that you will have handy around the house would be acetone, ask your wife if she will let you borrow her nail polish remover.
Another household item you will have that works on copper (not so sure about brass, but since brass is a copper alloy it might work) is lemon juice, I know it cleans both copper pennies and zinc pennies here in the states.

hope these idea help,

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ps, you will either have the worst smelling undercarriage for your train or the best depending on which of the above you use lol.
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Do a Google for CITRIC ACID, it works a treat on brass, after silver soldering or whatever and you want to CLEAN it , use this stuff.
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