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23-02-2005
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#11 (permalink)
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Join Date: Oct 2004 Real Name: David My Models: AcroWot, Auster J1, FW 190, various sports models and gliders Visit Glider Guider's Gallery
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Originally Posted by wonwinglo *** They show the left side being started but state the right ! not a very good start Dave. | I hadn't spotted that one - that makes it two errors. |
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23-02-2005
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#12 (permalink)
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Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: County Durham Real Name: Grahame My Models: Preference for biplanes Visit Greyhead's Gallery
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| David
The glue is applied to the edge of the former, it should be on the face if there's going to be any chance of a good glue joint! If builders are unlucky there might just be enough "seepage" around the joint to actually hold it!! Until they try to start the engine that is!!!
I suppose "right" could have meant "correct" but some how I doubt it. |
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25-02-2005
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#13 (permalink)
| | All Round Modeller | To be Honest, I wouldn't even bother with this one myself,
The reason in my case is that I have some very nice Spitfire Plans that were given away over the years with R/C Scale Models Magazine. I could easliy knock one up cheaper from those plans if I wished.
I know the Part-works mag is aimed at the beginners and I would agree with the choice of subject as a bad one for them no matter how nice it looks.
The Plans I have are for 2 different versions, One of them being Ian Peacock's design which was built for electric motors but will take a nice small size i/c engine easily..I have a couple of PAW .19 Diesels sat idle that would go in nicely with no large silencer sticking out either.
The other plans are for a larger version of same...not sure on engine size on those plans.
I am very wary of these part-works mags as they never seem to finish off a whole model although I did notice several late issues of the Nitro-racer on e-bay...especially the issue with the engine....I managed to bag one of those engines for cheaper than shop list price and got the carb brand new off e-bay too.
Just one thing that I noticed though is how many people were actually selling the mag issues and parts through e-bay...there's a lot of them on there...a quick way to make money or just people who started and gave up deciding to sell...??? or maybe another money spinning idea as a lot of these issues are unopened packages...who knows..??
I would say, If you really want a Spitfire, get some flying hours under your belt first with a good trainer and then an intermediate trainer/aerobatic jobbie. Then go buy some Spitfire Plans and make your own...If you prang it, you still have the plans to enable you to work from for repairs...Much cheaper....!!!
p.s....... I do have a Mark IX Spit under my belt already !!!
Regards.........Mark
Last edited by Bluewavestudios; 25-02-2005 at 02:50..
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25-02-2005
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#14 (permalink)
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Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Warwick,UK Real Name: Barry My Models: Aviation artifacts Visit wonwinglo's Gallery
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| Very sound advice Mark regarding this particular Spitfire,I can vouch for the Ian Peacock one having built one with an IC motor,it flies and looks great,but once again not for a beginner,sure build one and keep it until you have hundreds of flying hours under your belt,but nobody should even think about handling a Spit until they are part and parcel of the transmitter and can handly the most tricky of low wing designs they have progressed to.
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25-02-2005
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#15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Techydave | no i cant see it, what is it? | |
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26-02-2005
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#16 (permalink)
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Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Warwick,UK Real Name: Barry My Models: Aviation artifacts Visit wonwinglo's Gallery
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Originally Posted by squirrel no i cant see it, what is it? | *** See posts #10 & #12 on this thread,there are two errors Squirrel. |
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28-02-2005
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#17 (permalink)
| | All Round Modeller | Just watched the construction Vid from the Link above, I would be very surprised if that former stuck at all as the glue was placed on the wrong edges, as stated previously...probably stick to the building board but that is about it !!!
Also I noticed that De-Agostini did put a warning on their page as follows:
* De Agostini strongly recommends that inexperienced model-plane flyers take lessons before flying their model Spitfire.
Was that there before..?? or added as an Afterthought..??
Regards..............Mark
Last edited by Bluewavestudios; 28-02-2005 at 03:59..
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28-02-2005
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#18 (permalink)
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Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Warwick,UK Real Name: Barry My Models: Aviation artifacts Visit wonwinglo's Gallery
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| Watchdog not happy with Spitfire. Monday evenings TV 'Watchdog' programme highlighted Agnostini's new part works Spitfire,above all they highlighted the 'dangers' of flying these models in parks by in-experienced beginners,not exactly the type of over top exposure that the model flying hobby needs ! it also showed an experienced flyer speaking about the irresponsible attitude of the company producing this model,highlighting what we have said here about starting with a trainer model and to get proper supervision in the process,sound words indeed.
Also part of the programme dealt with a previous electric car model that they had done over two years,a missing gearbox part in issue number 19 and a faulty electronic conponent that melted after a few minutes running time ! when approached 29 times by telephone the company promised a replacement only to issue the self same faulty part eventually,they offered no repair service or other back up with the car,disgruntled the mother of her car mad son went out and purchased a kit for a lot less than the part works.
To get national television exposure like this is bad for any company especially if promises are not fulfilled and customers are not happy,lets just hope that they will give a better service and spares back-up to those contemplating carrying on with the Spitfire model,it will need every bit of expertise to get them flying ! 
__________________ 'And there I was oil on my goggles from a broken pipe,then I looked at the altimeter,all I could see was the makers name !' www.wonwinglo.scale-models.net/
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Reason: Correction.
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28-02-2005
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#19 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by wonwinglo Monday evenings TV 'Watchdog' programme highlighted Agnostini's new part works Spitfire,above all they highlighted the 'dangers' of flying these models in parks by in-experienced beginners,not exactly the type of over top exposure that the model flying hobby needs ! it also showed an experienced flyer speaking about the irresponsible attitude of the company producing this model,highlighting what we have said here about starting with a trainer model and to get proper supervision in the process,sound words indeed.
Also part of the programme dealt with a previous electric car model that they had done over two years,a missing gearbox part in issue number 19 and a faulty electronic conponent that melted after a few minutes running time ! when approached 29 times by telephone the company promised a replacement only to issue the self same faulty part eventually,they offered no repair service or other back up with the car,disgruntled the mother of her car mad son went out and purchased a kit for a lot less than the part works.
To get national television exposure like this is bad for any company especially if promises are not fulfilled and customers are not happy,lets just hope that they will give a better service and spares back-up to those contemplating carrying on with the Spitfire model,it will need every bit of expertise to get them flying !  | Barry, See that you too have been watching watch dog. Dosn't say very much good for the company  | |
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01-03-2005
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#20 (permalink)
| | All Round Modeller | Also saw the programme here and can only agree, does not say much for the company but nice to see that they have been exposed in the shoddy way that they work.
Regards.......Mark |
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