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Old 01-05-2004   #1 (permalink)
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Aerial Photography

Something I keep meaning to have another go at. Stumbled across this sole surviving pic' the other day when looking for something else. I'm the one in the orange jacket, by the way. Equipment was very basic indeed! A Kodak pocket 110 camera lashed onto the wing of a Liecester Model Centre Microlight (25 powered) with rubber bands and a servo arm reshaped into a snail cam to operate the shutter. This was early eighties I think. Things have come a long, long way since then. Anyone got anything better to show us? And any tips and hints for better results?

Edit: Just added a better pic of the microlight in an earlier incarnation.
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Re:Aerial photography

Had a try myself some years ago,lashed an automatic wind on camera underneath a Pipster,at the front was a deflector shield to keep the oil off the lens,climbed quite high for the initial attempts and shot the canal system doing overlaps as they did in wartime,the results were very good considering that it was just a quick experiment,I made a balsa box for the camera fitting a cam on the servo which stroked the shutter.

A few years later I had a couple of requests to take some pictures for cash,one was a car boot fair,the owner needed some pics but did not want to go for the expense of hiring an helicopter,the field next to the said event was quite tight,I tucked myself in the corner and opened her up just clearing the wire fence at the end and then felt very uneasy flying over a lot of people albeit at altitude,oddly enough not many realised what was happening,I throttled back and took a string of pics,anyway he was delighted with them.

The next venture was for an amateur film company who wanted shots of a mini fixed with deer horns ( ?) on the bonnet,they provided me with a very expensive digital cine camera,made a frame for it on the side of the fuselage and after permission to use the local race course the Mini sped around the perimeter,I had to keep the model low and at the speed of the mini,it was the most difficult flying that I had ever done as just could not get the speed right,after about 8 takes we managed to get some film in the can,so if you see a fim called 'The Westener' the aerial footage is mine !

One model that I designed specially for aerial work was called the Overlander,a 100 inch camera ship with either forward or downward camera attachment,she has yet to be built but one day I will get around to it.

One answer is to have combined IC and electric power,shut down the IC in flight and fly on the electric with no vibration,plenty of room for experimentation here.
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Yes, glow and electric is one answer to the vibration problem. Get altitude with the glow engines and then shut them down and fly on electric. Pix attached show a club friends Precedent T240 with two O.S. 32's and a Speed 700 electric motor in the nose. The camera is in the cockpit. Apparantly he wasn't satisfied with this as his next camera ship was a lifting bodied pusher with camera in the "nose" of the wing/fuselage. This too he considered a failiure as his next project - as are so many involved in aerial photography - is a large scale glider. I know this cos he's told me I've got to tow the damn thing up!
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Camera Ships.

Hey Wowbagger you know how much I like Tri Motors ! that is some ship,funny thing is you would think that pointing the camera downwards would be ideal,but it is not,you just get rather bland scapes of the ground,much better to point it forward and slightly downwards so you get the horizon plus the ground,takes a bit of fiddling to get right.
Pusher sounds good,clean airflow plus slime out of the way of the camera.
RCM & E have featured some brilliant aerial camera work over the years.
So more power to your shutters who ever would like to have a go,it is a real challenge and you get a real kick seeing the results after the photography session.
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Yep, those that I did which were successfull were with the camera pointing down the wing. You can "target" things pretty easily by turning until the wing is pointing at the target, then "SNAP". Job done. Also it's nice to see the wing of the aircraft in the shot.

Also tried some air to air with mixed results. It's really nice to have a photo of your model in the air from an airborne perspective. Unfortunately those seem to have vanished as well! Maybe I'll have a go again this summer. My Limbo dancer would be a good candidate for it with the camera mounted above the wing perhaps. Hmmmm...
 
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