wonwinglo

Shown on the TV programme 'Heart of the Country' today, was a remarkable bit of actual footage featuring a glider seaplane being towed at high speed across Lake Windermere ! no idea what the purpose of this experiment was,but it looked quite spectacular, with spray going in every direction? Also mentioned were the Sunderland Flying boats that used to operate from here,there was also a mention of one being at the bottom of Windermere.
There are plans to put in place speed restrictions of 10 m.p.h for jet skies and things like that on Windermere,and a lot of protests against this move,probably health and safety issues again ? with all of the speeds that have been attained here in the past it seems a bit late in the day for placing such restrictions ? the nanny state in operation again.

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duncan

Missed that piece on Windermere, pity. The original idea for the seaplane glider was for commando operations in Norway. The tug aircraft releasing the gliders offshore allow the gliders to penetrate the fiords silently and at night. I dont know what the tugs were to be but it seems a nightmare towing three(?) per plane with another (bigger) flying boat. The glider in the Steamboat Museum was a converted Slingsby "Cadet" I think. I`ve spoken to a local diver who can vouch for the fact that there is at least one Sunderland at the bottom of the lake. I believe there was a "shadow factory" assembling and test flying them on Windermere. Pity about the speed restrictions. The Windermere Speed Record Week was a great tradition, wonder if they will get an exemption for that event . The Lowwood Hotel was like Monaco for 10 days of action on water.

wonwinglo

Thanks Duncan for the explanation,that must have been the same steamboat museum that Fred Dibnah visited a few years ago ? just love those old steamers,such character,lets face it we all associate Windermere with speed records,Donald Campbell and all of that stuff,seems such a pity with all of that space,you had problems with the seaplane operations from the Scottish lakes as well,did they ever resolve that one ?
Being freshwater that Sunderland could be worth bringing up to the surface,I am sure that with modern technology and these miniature subs something could be done ?

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bartley

I love to go hiking in the Lakes, not least for the peace and quiet, but I'm always a bit 'twitchy' about condemning other peoples pastimes, (eg. jetskis), just because they don't fit in with mine. Having said that I can understand the speed restrictions from a safety aspect but I don't see why 'official' events shouldn't be allowed in such a spectacular location.

Steve.

wonwinglo

Very thoughtfully said Bartley,conflicts often happen with hobbies,we have to give and take as everything in life.

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Bunkerbarge

There have actualy been a number opf fatal accidents with Jet Ski's which I am sure is driving this initiative.

It's a shame though that we always seem to go for the "Knee jerk" over-reaction instead of some logical and well though out solution.

duncan

Most of the waterplane activity in Scotland during WWII was on Lochryan at West Freugh (pro. Froo) in SW. The Clyde Estuary, central area west coast, Oban , a bit further up west coast. Scapa Flow, right at the very top. Coming down the east coast, Invergordon on the Cromarty Firth. Finally on the Forth , near Rosyth and Edinburgh. The Invergordon WW II buildings and launching slipway are still intact and a couple of hangars (now used for a charity collection point for 3rd world countries, swords into ploughs ) The plans to convert BN "Islanders" to flying boats (Ross) there came to nought, alas. Nothing but a dozen or so oil rigs floating at anchor. There is a strong model waterplane presence on Windermere these days. Dont know what problems you mean Barry and we only have one lake (Leven), all the rest are Lochs Which are the same as loughs in Ireland not as in lock for keys etc.

wonwinglo

It is probably resoved now Duncan ? there were problems with commercial seaplane operations allied to so called pollution,a Cessna 172 seaplane operator,they just do not understand thse people,seaplanes do not leave pollution,not in the water long enough.

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wonwinglo

It probably was Jet Ski operations that started all of this paranoia Richard,but why not try and exercise some sort of control over things ? why do we need to place a ban on things all of the time ?

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duncan

That must be the one operating on Loch lomond. Another flies off Loch Earn, a Kitfox. I think the Jetski cowboys have spoiled it for everybody, fun machines , great to ride , lots of experts on them too but the odd lout that can afford them just ruined their reputation.

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