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Old 30-03-2006   #11 (permalink)
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Im wondering about the Purple caterpillar ....sorry the old beaded chap with the model..........thats the one to track!

I will have to go back and read more of this sometime ...RC Forum has a brilliant flying Pterosaur thread http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...t=202963&pp=15 and theres a link in the Inter Ex site if you can find it to the German teams work....nice site Duncan I hadnt found that one.

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Wonder who the white-haired man was , Lippisch ? or did I read that wrong ? The mention of the Wallace is a bit confusing could that be the Wapiti variant or were they just using up their Ws. Penrose`s own writings are so evocative of the period. A great pilot , no doubt. Paul McCready (of man-powered flight fame) did a prehistoric flying beast for TV too. There is/was a plan in RCM&E s lists too. The German "look-a-like"to the Westland machine was/is called Leonardo or similar if I remember. Shades of the da Vinci Code ! Where did the Inter-ex example get the inspiration and why the name ? Indeed ,"curious and curiouser" said the White Rabbit....eh !

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Penrose was a man of great vision and bravery,his ability to get the very best from a flying machine is well known,without him Westlands would have been a lot less informed of their enterprising products,testing such aircraft was not without its great risks,the first flight of the Lysander was dramatic as large chunks of fabric decided to strip themselves from the fuselage,but he managed to get her down safely,I remember someone asking him what his favourite aeroplane was ? his reply was, the humble Westland Widgeon parasol machine which he flew himself around in for many years,his books are a joy to read and yes I believe the penned words that you mention Clive.
Strange you mentioned the Lizzy thats where I started this sort of some time ago throwing it down to Tim hooper a man who thrives on oddities........ http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...37#post4994437 ...........you may like to take a look at this long thread if your into Westlands.
Try this one for http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargra..._nov12_03.html vintage indoor

I dont think its Lippisch ..he didnt die till 1976 http://www.todayinsci.com/cgi-bin/in...com/2/2_11.htm scroll down and click on source. The description is of someone who was building large complex models pre wright brothers ........possible but not a physical match for the time window Duncan.

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I just found this on the Plans Page....hmmm I wonder
http://www.theplanpage.com/Months/2504/tailless.htm
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just found the westland link I was missing for this thread
http://home.wanadoo.nl/dutch-horten-team/

more pics here http://x.wings.free.fr/1998/index.html

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Interesting high aspect ratio wing shapes there,flying wings lost favour a bit in recent years but making a comeback on the slopes,the ability to mix controls via computer radios has been instrumental in getting rid of those sliding servos on rails we used to put up with,a few degrees of reflex trailing edge and some nice flying machines,if only time was on our side ? there are so many different designs that are there for experimenting with.Very nice Horten model,I recently saw some video footage of a British LMA model turbine powered as well,well beyond my resources.
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Concluding coments from the Penrose story

http://www.furthermore.org.uk/static.../penrose16.htm

The years rolled on. At 62 Penrose was offered an attractive retirement package, which he accepted. His ventures into boat-building proved fruitless, but he was more successful as an author, which was just as well, for inflation ate into his pension. In all he wrote eleven books, of which his British Aviation (five volumes) became a classic.

And so the wheel turned its circle. Eventually Penrose had to give up one of his boats and one of his two biplanes: they were too just expensive to keep. But it was not quite over yet: for the man who had seen the dawn of aviation, who had taken his baptism of the air dangling from a Cody kite, who had flown an Avro 504, who had test-piloted nearly 400 different civil and military aircraft as diverse as the high-altitude PV3 and the low-altitude Wyvern torpedo bomber, the high-speed Whirlwind and the low-speed Lysander, who had seen the flight of Bleriot aircraft and the Space Shuttle, fate had one more card to turn: now in his seventies, Penrose acquired a tailless microlight aircraft with a seat in the open, a tricycle undercarriage, a Henri-Farman-style horizontal elevator in front, a rear-mounted 17hp engine driving a pusher propeller, and a high-mounted swept wing with vertical fins at the wingtips. He named it the Pterodactyl Ascender, and flew it and his other biplane well into his eighties. He died on 31st August 1996, aged 92. Let the last words be his:
A gallon of petrol, and the skies are mine again.

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That is a lovely piece of writing ANFB,about a very special person in aviation who will always be remembered.
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just did a search

turned up this.....if m in the U know what sorry
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...y=40051&fkxs=1
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No bids yet ? a lovely piece.
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