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Old 05-04-2006   #11 (permalink)
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The kit by andy yu is i think a better representation of the decking. He made the decking as i described earlier the other by lim is an etched brass deck and it has been washed and weathered then drybrushedthen to give it its look a light mist coat of light cream is applied then the whole thing is gently rubbed down with scotchbrite to give the effect
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i did not understant you decking technique nigel, i did ask you to dumb it down a bit for me but i guess you missed that post.

anyway, here are some pics of first, the photo etched "ultimate" details kit by White Ensign, and the other is off the kit itself layed out on my floor....
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and here is a pic of the most important part of the model!!!

(un-painted)
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Ships wooden decks suprisingly enough are actually very even in thier colour. They are nearly always teak, no matter what the vessel and the colour tone from one plank to the next is very close.

The model by Andy Yu actually shows distinctly different colours in the deck which is actually quite unrealistic and in my 30 years at sea is something I have not come across.

The other model with the more even tones but the detail picked out by carefull dry brushing is a fair more closer to the real effect.

If it would be of any use to you let me know and I will take some photo's of our decks for you to compare, which are typical of the cargo ships and warships I have been on in the past.

Usually caulking on most vessels particularly warships, cruise ships and cargo ships is black but sometimes on smaller yachts you may find white caulking.

If you look at the pictures of my Ben Ain coaster in the boats section I have used the same light coloured lime wood as planking and relied on the slight differrences in grain and tone to differrentiate between the planks. This is pretty much how decks are created in reality. Obviously at 1/350th scale this has to relate to a relatively even tone across the deck with some wash to create some subtle differrences and dry brush to pick out the caulking.

Ideally you could remove the raised detail and scribe the caulking which could be then picked out by a dark wash but I would be very carefull with the heavy use of colour as in the first model.

Let me know if you want some pictures.
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yes please richard that would be great!!
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ok guys, which colour scheem do you think is best??

the silver and gold, or the silver and black??
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Im Sorry i will have to disagree with bunk here i think that when you take in to acount the size of those ships and the multitude of different trees (all teak) that went into them a basic overall colour looks too toylike have a look at these pics of the new jersey to see what i mean
http://www.colosseumbuilders.com/john/nj/forecastle.htm
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ok....i see what you mean nigel. well i will have to wait for richards pictures to be fare.

but if i do it your way i aint doing the bloddy nails!!!
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Nigel,

Please feel free to disagree as much as you want. I have lived on ships all my working life and I know. I don't need to disagree, I just have to walk outside my cabin.

The pictures you linked to are of a ship that has been a floating museum for many many years now so the decks of this vessel have had very little attention in all that time.

Working ships, especially warships are attended to regularly and the decks are scrubbed with holy stones on a regular basis. This keeps the surface of the wood scrubbed and quite white in appearance. The main colour differrences your pictures show are where the deck is wet when it takes on a much darker appearance.

Vessels nowadays are not scrubbed with holy stones but electric deck scrubbers are used to much the same effect. We scrub the decks on here twice a week, fairly normal for this type of ship. This obviously relates to a much more even colour on a 1/350th model than the very noticable colours used in the first model shown earlier.

I will send you some pictures of an operational vessels decking in a day or so.
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ok thanks richard that would be great.

how can i make a poll?
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