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Yard: A mast spar, tapering towards the ends.
Yaw: A vessel that fails to steer on a directed course.
Yawing: Another of the six degrees of freedom of movement of a vessel. It describes movement of a rotational nature about a vertical axis.
Yoke: A structural member that usually crosses a main support to impart the loading evenly on either side. Can also be fitted to a rudder when the rudder is operated in a push and pull steering gear arrangement.

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Z

Zones: Divisions into which the ship is split up for the purposes of containing and fighting fires.

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Do you have any idea how releived I am to have finally finished this project?

bartley

Mr. B-Barge, what a piece of work!
Although I usually stick to not quite finishing aircraft, I am straying for a change to a ship as my brother bought me one for Christmas, (I chose it-he paid for it-I thought it would be a nice project for the long winter nights).
It's the frigate President by Sergal, (any comments on this kit anyone?), and so far I've completed the hull but am now about to start on the planking, (scary to say the least as other than knowing where the first plank starts I haven't much of a clue-no change there then! If you, or anyone, has any advice re. planking it would be a help, ie. do you start at the pointy bit and work back or the blunty bit and work forward or in the middle? (I haven't learnt all the terminology yet!!!)
Thanks, Steve.

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Bartley thanks for your comments, a lot of time went into this thread which I hope will be usefull to people who are in the process of sorting out the blunt end from the pointed end!!

As for planking, assuming you are talking about deck planking as opposed to hull planking, there are many differrent techniques and plenty of advice but at the end of the day you are going to have to sit down and work out your own plan of attack and most of it is common sense and logic.

First of all you need to decide what technique you are going to use for the caulking. A common one is to use black paper laid vertically between the planks then sanded back when the deck is finished. Another is using black plasticard and yet another is using black cotton. Finally a method I devised was to lay the planks with a gap which was then filled with a mixture of PVA glue and powder paint. This was then sanded back to the planks when the glue had dried.

Once you have made the decision of how you are going to do the caulking you have to decide on whether you are going to "Joggle" the plank ends or not. "Joggling" is the process of fitting the plank ends into the curved deck edge planks as found at the bow and stern. As I was simply repeating a plank pattern that I had on a pre-printed ply overlay I didn't joggle mine but I have to admit to being led a bit down the garden path by the overlay. Had I done more research at the time I may have decided that joggled planks would have been more authentic but I am reassured by the fact that Irish Steam Coasters were built very much to a budget and the cheapest techniques were used throughout construction.

Anyway your plan of attack is to then fit the edge planks around the deck you are covering and the planking that frames any deck fittings such as winches, derricks etc. This then leaves the area in the middle that has to have the longitudinal planks fitted to it. Always start in the centre and work away from the central plank towards either side. This will ensure that the planks are even port and stbd.

Have a look at my Ben Ain build thread here:

http://www.scale-models.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1711


to see how I did mine but at the end of the day make your own mind up as to how to tackle your own. The technique of using the PVA glue is not the easiest and I would not recommend it in the way I did the first deck (I was learning as I went along!) For subsequent decks I will be applying the caulking with a syringe along the plank edges to minimise the amount of rubbing down required afterwards.

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bartley

Thanks for that BB, always nice to have some options and I'm not averse to putting my thinking cap on and figuring which is best for me but it's still a big help having experts advice because, for a start, I would never have thought of using black paper between the planks and I'm sure that the bit of contrast it would provide is just the sort of thing to make a model a bit special.

Cheers,

Steve.

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You're very welcome Steve but please don't have me down as an expert, this is my first time doing such a job as planking so I'm learning as well.

Black paper does seem to be quite a common technique so I'm sure it can work well for you and the results with any of the options is a world apart from a printed ply overlay.

One thing I did and I would recommend that you do is some sample peices before committing to the model. I wanted to experiment with differrent woods, techniques, caulking etc so I made a few samples before I decided on my preferred option.

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Skuta

I am very impressed with your work, I know exactly how much time this sort of thing takes. As an Englishman living in Sweden and belonging to a Swedish model boat club I often get translation questions concerning nautical terms. I have been compiling a Swedish /English, English/Swedish dictionary. After 2 years I have completed the Swedish/English part. It has been extremly popular amongst the Swedish model ship builders becuase most information in books and on the webb is in English. Looking at your dictionary has given me even more words and phrases to translate. Hope this is Ok with you.

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Skuta, please be my guest and rest assured they are not my words!! I only borrowed them from other people as well, however the definitions you are more than welcome to use.

I actually work with a Swedish Captain so if you ever need any more help feel free to ask.

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Richard
I will certainly get back to you and your Swedish Captain. You can ask him what "Skuta" means, it's a swedish word and no it'ts not a dirty word!

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