Painting Thread, Me 109 4/7 collours in Modelling; I had painted the said area in RLM 65,it will not take much time to remask and paint in RLM ...
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I had painted the said area in RLM 65,it will not take much time to remask and paint in RLM 02. Cheers Steve. What would be a good book for 109 ref?
Tony..
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I'm confused now Tony. The area I mean is the section of the leading edge on the wings upper surface that is revealed when the leading edge slats (sometimes referred to as slots for some reason) deploy by rolling forwards and downwards.
The slats are shown here (german "vorflugel")
And here's a detail showing the mechanism.
The inside of the slat would also be painted in RLM 02 primer.
I hope I haven't caused any confusion!
Cheers
Steve
Edit,forgot the book. There really isn't one that covers it. If you specify a particular time period or series I can probably give you a decent reference for that.For technical information I use the original handbooks and parts manuals a lot.
There are some very good websites too. Lynn Ritger's 109 lair here http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm is a good start and it's free!
Last edited by stona; 30-01-2011 at 12:25.
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I should have stated the area is behind the slots. You have helped me out and cheers again.
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Tony..
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Hi Theuns. Sorry for hijacking your thread for a while. Have a look at this site it may help as well- Falcon's Messerschmitt Bf 109 Hangar
Tony..
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Cracking paint job there Tony. We are talking about the same area thank heavens! It should be RLM 02 or just possibly the camouflage colour but not the underside colour (RLM 65).
Theuns that's another good online source that Tony has linked to. I'd forgotten about that one so I'll be having a look!
Cheers
Steve
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No hijacks dude, I am glad for all the info!
Steve, the instructions call for the cockpit floor,seat, collomb and instr pannel to be XF-63 German grey. The internal collour for the sides of the fuselarge is a mix of XF-22 RLM Grey (what ever that is) and XF49 Khaki.
Those RLM standards are realy confusing me.Why the different collours.
The inside of the wheelwells are the same mix of 22 and 49. Do you recon they are trying to replicate the primer you are refering to?I will check on the conversion chart what the nearest collour is.
There is a pranged 109 in desert collours here in our war meseum, could be an interesting thing to replicate.Must just find out what model it was. There is no mottle on it, just tan and blue with a white cowl IIRC.
Thanx for all the linx lads.I have started on the "office" and as usual it looks like this is the standard "fall into place" tamiya kit :-) I got it for only about 11 sqidd ,so I am rather pleased with it.
Theuns
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Forgot to add, i am using "ME 109 aces of north Africa and the Med" as my referance.
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XF-22 + XF-49 = RLM 02 which is Vallejo 71044. Will this help.
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Indeed it does, thanx.
I had a look at the humbrol chart and theirs is # 86 wich is a olive (could this be right for the interior sides of the cockpit?????? If the rest of the cockpit is german grey? See what I mean about being confused.
The pix in one of the links does show a green primer inside the wheel wells, but why the green AND the grey in the office? Or am I just reading it wrong? Some of the pix also show an all grey office but with a black instr. pannel
Theuns
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Hi Theuns. Tony is correct with his identification of RLM 02.
For this period you can safely do all the cockpit interior except the instrument panel,which would be dark grey,in this colour. This includes the seat.
The wheel well,inside of cowlings and undercarriage legs,the undercarriage legs themselves,inside of slats,leading edge behind slats will also all be in RLM 02. It's all the same colour!
I wouldn't call RLM 02 olive. It is a grey/green colour,I'm sure you'll find a chip online to give an idea.
I have to say that the dark blue/grey colour RLM 66 did appear in cockpits much earlier than you will read in many modelling references but without good evidence you should go with RLM 02 on a balance of probabilities. Any Bf109 from and including the F series onwards should have the darker colour.
Any more confusion just let us know!
Cheers
Steve
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