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31-08-2008
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| | Scale Model Member | Varnish If you follow the painting instructions, you'll end up with some matt, satin and gloss on your model. To apply decals, you need to gloss the surface.
Q1: Why should I bother with matt and satin when I have to eventually gloss it?
Everything is glossed, decals applied. Now, apply the varnish. Again, you will have to have different finish for every part. My example, yellow matt propeller tips, black satin propeller (gloss wings and fuselage, but matt wing ends).
Q2: Do you mask off say the gloss parts and matt parts, and paint satin, then mask off satin and gloss parts paint it with matt varnish and finally mask off matt and satin and paint the rest with gloss varnish? Is this three stage final varnish quite usual?
Q3: Am I going to have too many layers on the pilot's seat? I'll have to undercoat it, then I'll have to give it two coats of say interior green. It has a decal seatbelt, so I will have to gloss it. Finally, apply matt varnish. That is, five coats just for the seat. |
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01-09-2008
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| | Scale Model Member | This is by no means a comprehensive answer, merely what I understand!
If the finish is meant to be matt or satin on the REAL aircraft, gloss coating the model, is to make the decals application easier (they stick better to gloss surfaces) then you varnish on top of the decals in
Matt and satin on other places around the machine are reflective of the material/paint used on the real thing, so in many cases, yes you will get matt/satin & gloss at various points. e.g. the yellow prop tips are commonly gloss, bakelite seats are kinda satin, camo is usually matt or slightly satin.
The other main reason, is that some colours are only available in matt and need to be gloss, so the instructions may advise to paint matt then apply gloss varnish.
Hope this helps partially at least...
Stuart
__________________ "Ah, Bellamy, for cryin' out loud. That's the the stinking, most awful, stupid joke and you're always pullin' that stinking awful stupid joke.
You don't want in this thing, you don't get in this thing. I cut you out of everything. I don't need you. Sixty feet of bridge I can get almost anywhere. Schmuck!" |
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01-09-2008
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| | Scale Model Member | Thanks for help. I guess the best way would be to varnish the model with the appropriate varnish required for the fuselage and wings. Then to touch up the little bits that have different finish.
Do I need to have a high gloss finish on aircraft? Good question. This is Corsair F4U-5 and what I've seen, most modellers use some sort of navy/gloss blue paint. I'm suing Xtracolor Gloss Sea Blue, which is way too shiny to look real. I think it will have to get satin varnish finally. |
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02-09-2008
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#6 (permalink)
| | Scale Model Member | Satin on a model is a better representation of true "gloss" finish on the real thing. it's a better scale effect, so I'd suggest satin paint/varnish on a Corsair!
Stuart
__________________ "Ah, Bellamy, for cryin' out loud. That's the the stinking, most awful, stupid joke and you're always pullin' that stinking awful stupid joke.
You don't want in this thing, you don't get in this thing. I cut you out of everything. I don't need you. Sixty feet of bridge I can get almost anywhere. Schmuck!" |
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03-09-2008
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#7 (permalink)
| | Scale Model Member | It will have to be a satin coat. Looking at the gloss, I would have to wear a pair of sunglasses to look at it! |
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03-09-2008
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#8 (permalink)
| | Scale Model Member | Yeah - even on airliners satin looks more accurate than high-gloss. The only exception that I can think of is perhaps car models, sometimes they do need proper gloss, probably due to the scale being larger (1/24-1/20-1/12)
__________________ "Ah, Bellamy, for cryin' out loud. That's the the stinking, most awful, stupid joke and you're always pullin' that stinking awful stupid joke.
You don't want in this thing, you don't get in this thing. I cut you out of everything. I don't need you. Sixty feet of bridge I can get almost anywhere. Schmuck!" |
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