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Old 02-09-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Weathering with salt

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Been trying to find out about using salt for paint chips am I right saying;
1, Base coat either red oxide/aluminium.
2, Top coat.
3, Remove salt.
Do you fix the salt grains with the base coat or something else ie clear coat etc
I know an earlier post on Uboats mentioned it but unless I misread the thread I did'nt see how to stop the salt falling of whilst further painting
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Hello all
Been trying to find out about using salt for paint chips am I right saying;
1, Base coat either red oxide/aluminium.
2, Top coat.
3, Remove salt.
Do you fix the salt grains with the base coat or something else ie clear coat etc
I know an earlier post on Uboats mentioned it but unless I misread the thread I did'nt see how to stop the salt falling of whilst further painting
Thanks all
If memory serves, an issue of FSM a while back had an article on this and they suggested simply base coating, dabbing on very salty water with a cotton wool bud, letting the salt water dry, spray top coat, let that dry and scrub gently.

If you put it in one of the paint coats you are going to either
a) clog up your airbrush,
b) end up with a very strange un natural chip pattern all over, or
c) end up not being able to remove the salt easily so having to sand it off.

The idea of having it no more than resting on the base coat is to allow it to fall easily, you don't want it fixed by two layers of paint!

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Thanks for the reply the thread on I found on here shows using very course salt crystals on a Uboat
But how do you stop it falling off whilst painting
But I will try the salty water way though
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Thanks for the reply the thread on I found on here shows using very course salt crystals on a Uboat
But how do you stop it falling off whilst painting
But I will try the salty water way though

I think the salt method assumes you'll be spraying at fairly low pressure or at least perpendicular to the surface (which would minimise the chances of it being blown off). I don't know if it can be made to work using a traditional brush... You could always try white glue... (but that's a wild guess and I've not seen it done before)

Another possible method is to use maskol and an old sponge, then the maskol will stick itself to the model and the "how do you stop it falling off" question becomes somewhat academic.

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Salt Chipping and Raised Panel Line Washes has a very good tutorial. The salt crystals are held on by a small amount of water, then after the topcoat dries the salt is brushed off...

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I read a very good article on this recently and, although I have never tried it, I seem to remember you paint the base coat, which for something like an aircraft would be silver to represent the aluminium metal skin, then apply the salt as a very rich saturated brine. This will dry to crystals which would adhere sufficiently well to withstand airbrushing. Once the top coats are dry then brush the salt away with a stiff brush.

I think this technique would be a bit tricky with brush painting as almost certainly salt will become dislodged and end up being mixed in with the paint. This would not then brush off easily and you would end up with a lumpy surface.
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Cheers lads for the replys will try with salty water
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Tony Hi,

You might like to try this site it has loads of useful stuff on it>
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and scroll down to Techniques and tips, but the whole site is good.
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Again thanks for the reply's this article makes it clearer
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