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Old 09-10-2006   #11 (permalink)
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I wonder how much it would cost to get into flying condition? I bet thats the expensive part! (and fuel)
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The new owner has been in touch with me,he was going to use her as a flight simulator module and chop her up,I have managed to talk him out of that one telling him what a very rare aircraft he has on his hands,he would never forgive himself for such vandalism,she is a little beauty and very well made,research into her sparse history is underway.
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Well done barry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another cool aircraft is saved, your a star!!!

I also think that making it into a flight simulator would a)vastly increase its value anyway & b) be very cool!
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It is more a case of certification Squiff,the Popular Flying Association will not grant her a permit to fly,if this was America ( the land of freedom ) then she would be airborne by now.
The problem was she was built first before any ongoing inspection,a few people have fell into this trap,before you start building your own aeroplane there is a log book issued,then each part as it is built is cleared as airworthy by a PFA inspector,the construction on this one is immaculate however because there is no paperwork trail that does not count,it is all about the laws of civil aviation,sad but true.

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So Barry would it be worthwhile taking it apart to reassemble and follow the paper trail or is it the type of construction that couldn't be dismantled without damaging it?

Maybe it should have been targeted at the American market to generate the most from it. It look s just the sort of thing Americans like as a toy.
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Well Richard the current owner does not live a million miles from where I am,he tells me that he is going to investigate further with the PFA to see if there are in fact any stress calculations or drawings extant,so there could be hope yet,notwithstanding this and even if she never does fly the design is quite unique,I seem to remember back in my mind seeing a drawing in an aviation magazine of her a long time ago ?
To answer your question fully here is the problem-When parts are made up from raw materials they carry what are called 'Approved certificates' these pieces of paper relate to each sheet of ply or metal etc stating that the materials are approved for use in aircraft construction,now when this system is often bypassed by well meaning keen builders there is no paperwork trail of either the material specs,or the inspection of said items,whilst it is probably fine the certification is null and void because of this,aviation is like nothing else for paperwork,it bogs people down that just need to get on with the job,sadly as is shown here it can cause problems later on.
Another aspect is that the original builder is no longer with us,so a lot of the mysteries are trying to be sorted out,the situation is far from being unique and there are lots of aircraft that fit this category stored around the country that will never ever fly because of red tape.

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So Barry would it be worthwhile taking it apart to reassemble and follow the paper trail or is it the type of construction that couldn't be dismantled without damaging it?

Maybe it should have been targeted at the American market to generate the most from it. It look s just the sort of thing Americans like as a toy.
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