DUNMINING

hi all - i,ve inherited some tamiya and italeri 1/35th models (anti - aircraft guns and a panzer 2, - 9 models in total), the problem is that none of them have any instructions - any idea where i can source them (or download)??.
i,m after a 1/24th airfix stuka as well - i know the firm is defunct but i,d really like one - any ideas and many thanks - dave

Bunkerbarge

Keep an eye on Ebay. A lot of Airfix stuff comes up there and I have seen the Stuka before.

GEEDUBBYA

Howdy Dave,

Well, this is a problem that alot more people have than we realize. I have, as recently as yesterday considered starting a thread in which forum members could scan and upload instructions AND decal sheets to a thread in the forum. However, not being sure of copyright laws in the UK, as well as not having cleared the idea with John, the founder of the forum, I have not acted on the idea.
I do however think that such a repository of information (instruction sheets and decals) would be of great assistance to modelers.
But as for your current problem.....I did abit of research and went to the tamiya homepage and in their frequently asked questions section, I found the following:

I lost the instructions. Can you send it to me?
We recommend you contact your local retailer or local
agent listed on our web site.

So, I took the liberty to find your local agent ( I hope you live in the UK lol). and here is that contact information:

U.K.THE HOBBY COMPANY LIMITED,phone: 01908-209-480

Now on the off chance that you are somewhere else, the contact info for other countries in europe appears on this link: http://www.tamiya.com/europe/euro.htm

Now, if you can be more specific as to what models you have, ie.... the stock number found on the box, I might can locate you some downloadable instructions online......MAYBE, but no guarentees. But I would be more than happy to look for you.
So, if you can provide the stock #, scale, and model name I will be happy to see what I can find for you.
Otherwise, you can contact the distributor in your area and get the instructions from them....I am sure there will be some sort of charge as well as postage.

Now onto the airfix sheets, try this link: http://pws.prserv.net/gbinet.dbjames/sheets.htm this man offers instructions . BUT READ THE PAGE FIRST, it is full of helpful info.

And last but not least, Italeri. This link will take you to Italeris "contact page" wherein you can contact the manufacturer directly. You will need to be as specific as you can about the instructions you are looking for.
http://www.italeri.com/comunica.aspx

I had started a thread a few weeks ago in which I listed the contact info for several manufacturers, but it seems to have died lol, although its still here in the forum somewhere.
I personally think that info like "instruction sheets", Decal sheets and contact info for the various companies would be a great asset to the members of the forum. I know where alot of the information can be found, but the compilation of the info is not that easy. I may, in the near future put it all on my geocities website (well as much as I can) and provide the link to the forum for refference. My only problem is, after being off work for almost four months with a neck injury, I am due to start back to work on Monday Sept. 11, so my time online will be cut way down once more.
But if I can help you any further, let me know and I will be happy to do what I can for you.

have a good day,

Greg

Bunkerbarge

Greg, the whole issue of posting old instruction sheets was discussed only a few years ago and the very issue of copyright was what decided that we should not follow up on it.

One point that was raised was what the law had to say about companies that went out of business but it all seemed to be a bit of a grey area. Johnobviously is most concerned about the integrity of the forum so it was thought best not to attempt anything that may be seen as against the law.

Thanks for the links though, a lot of usefull stuff there.

GEEDUBBYA

Howdy Bunker,

Well, the copyright issue was the exact reason I have done nothing with the Idea. There are plenty of "instruction sheets" out there in cyber space already and I can usually find them provided I have enough time to search for them. But the thought of a repository was attractive.
So, for those people who need instructions and/or decal sheets for their models, we will just have to find them online or contact the manufacturers.
As I stated above, I started a list of contact info for manufacturers a few weeks back here in the forum, but no one has added to it. So, Here is a link to quite a few manufacturers websites where you can find contact info for missing parts, instructions etc. I want to thank the guys over at Craig central for this list and all the other resources they have posted at: http://www.craigcentral.com/modelmain.asp including the listing of our forum now in their links on the above page.
Maybe the above link will be of use to some of our members here, the site is full of tips, contact info, kit info etc..

Have a good day,

Greg

rjwood_uk

well now i am worried as i just uploaded a scan of the decals of my F-16 into the build thread. john if you want me to remove them please let me know!

sorry i had no idea, didnt even think of copywrite!

GEEDUBBYA

Howdy RJ,

I wouldnt worry about the scan of the decal sheet, like I said, there are many copies of scans of decals and instructions out there.....thousands of copies.

Have a good day,

Greg

rjwood_uk

maybe so but if john aint happy i will happily remove them!

GEEDUBBYA

Howdy Guys,

I just wanted to make one more comment on this about the decals. My brother is a lawyer here in the states and we have often had talks about copyright and what sets off the litigation in copyright suits.
Usually it is the intent of the person who copied the material. If you copy something as a "back up" copy, then you are within your rights to do so here in the US provided you aquired the origianl thru proper channels.
If you copy something ad attempt to make money off of it, then that is illegal. If you try to deprive the copyright holder of monetary gains by reproducing his product, then thats illegal.
It all has to do with intent. RJ and or anyone else posting somethng like decals merely for the purpose of demonstration, and without intent of gaining monetarily, is abit like "reporting the news"....ie.... if you use someones face in a movie, you have to get a release and compensate that person...however, if there is a news report and you are in the video, they do not have to compensate you or get a release.....they arent making money from your likeness, they are showing the video with an intent to inform.
So, as I said, one copy of a decal is not something to worry about, however, my idea of a repository of instruction sheets and decals could be construed as an attempt to deprive the copyright holder of funds that would be gained by the sale of the decals to each person who viewed them.
So again, I think you are ok R.J.


Have a good day,

Greg

GEEDUBBYA

Howdy Dave,

Its me again. About that 1/24th scale airfix Stuka......ya still want one? Ok, well I have found you one online at a company in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. So, there is the cost of shipping overseas involved, but thats all up to you as to whether you even purchase the model.
However, you do realize that a 1:24th scale model is not anywhere close in price to say a 1:48th scale model. Again, thats your business lol.
So, here ya go, you can find the 1:24th scale Airfix Stuka at this link:

http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/arx/arx18002.htm

Below is the description provided on the website:


1/24 Junkers Ju87B-2 Stuka




Description
Construct the German Ju87B2 Stuka Aircraft With This 1/24 Scale Plastic Assembly Kit from Airfix. For Modelers Age 8 and Older.
Facts
During the early phases of WWII, the German Ju87 Stuka was one of the most feared aerial weapons and it played a large role in the German Army's blitzkreig through Poland and western Europe. The Ju87B models were particularly active during the early phases of the Battle of Britain but the Luftwaffe quickly found that the Stuka was highly vulnerable in the face of determined fighter opposition. Subsequently, the Ju87 would only be seen when and where Germany had undisputed control of the skies.
Features
1/24th scale plastic model for static display.
Molded-in recessed panel lines and rivets.
Fully detailed Jumo 211 engine with radiators and removable cowls.
Highly detailed cockpit with seats, controls, ammo containers and rear gun.
Canopy can be allowed to open and close.
Fully detailed bomb release mechanism and choice of 500kg or 250kg bombs.
Optional siren, tropical air filter.
Landing gear features rubber tyres.
Comprehensive instructions with brief history and photos of the real plane.

Manufacturer:AirfixProduct #:arx18002Your Price:$75.89 List Price:$99.99Availability:In StockSpecifications
Scale: 1/24
Wingspan: 22-5/8" (57.4cm)
Length: 18-1/4" (46.3cm)
Total Pieces: 344
Markings
One Waterslide Decal Sheet with Markings for 2 Aircraft
1: Ju87B-2, "J9 + BL", 9./St.G 1, St Omer, France, November 1940.
2: Ju87B-2/Trop, "T6 + MM", 4./St.G 2 "Immelmann", Tmimi, Libya,
June 1941.
Airframe Colours
1: Black Green (RLM70), Dark Green (RLM71), Light Blue (RLM65).
2: RLM70, RLM71, RLM79 (sand yellow), RLM65.
Detail Colours
-Black, White, Black-Grey (RLM66), Aluminum, Yellow (RLM04),
Silver, Yellow.

I hope this helps you in your quest, I think I may have built this kit many, many, many yrs ago, the description sound so familiar to me and I do remember owning a Stuka with rubber wheels that was about the same size as one of the old "COX" gas powered, line controled airplanes.

I did find other listings for this model however and the costs were $139.50 and $102.00 .

However, I did also find it at tower hobbys ( http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LX2286&P=K ) for $74.99 (one dollar less than the site above) but this company is also in the USA so shipping charges would apply again.

Anyway, I hope this helps, atleast you know the model does exsist out there.

Have a good day,


Greg