Cheers colin , gavin. The shows not till october col but im still hoping to take it. As for the design it owes a lot to the data that was transferred ( legitimately this time) from the unsuccessful Israeli ' Lavi' project, an aircraft design similar to the j10 . The chinese added this info to their own design and the j10 was the result. There isnt actually much similarity to the typhoon really - one less engine , canards behind the cockpit not on the nose , its only the intake that makes them look related , thanks guys tony