Project: 1/3 Model Of Auster G-AGOH From Recycled Materials - Page 2

OOLILISSIMA · 29-12-2006

... not to mention the animals that live among such trees!! We're on the brink of just us and a few dogs and cats left on the earth.

duncan · 29-12-2006

An interesting project Paul. Have you thought of going on the scrounge to the big paper companies ? They have large advertising budgets and do get involved in "educational" projects (just another way to brainwash teachers and children about the company`s products). The "Great Paper Plane Project" gets PR at universities and from British Airways I believe, TV companies love this sort of thing. Technical advice from the boffins in the paper industry and scrap (roll ends) from users in packaging and printing will magically appear if they sniff a PR opportunity. Save rummaging in skips, go to the source. When I needed brown wrapping paper for a barrier on blue foam that was about to be fibre-glassed found a nearby paper-mill that offered as much, and more, of high quality off-cuts that they advised would be better than the traditional brown wrapping paper, all free "Just send us a picture when it is finished" they said. Same with the glassing, a few enquiries at the aforementioned glassing firms supplier of resins and raw glass led to them offering to get the job done for me (if I did the preparation and finishing myself). Ask and thou shall receive. Same with they paint I needed, a phone call to the Rosyth Naval Dockyard PR office and they said "show us what you mean" meant a trip to the dockyard with my then unfinished hull and returned with 10 gallons of undercoat and 10 gallons of gloss grey as used on Royal Navy ships. There is no shortage of balsa in the world, it grows in many parts of the world but political and other reasons prevent economic supplies for modelling. It is a very rapid growth tree so sustainable amounts could be harvested with little threat to the environment. There was a plantation started in the far east a few years ago to avoid the uncertainty of supplies from the traditional source in Ecuador where more profitable weeds were being exploited. Maybe some of our Oz friends can advise if that Far Eastern project is still going. I think it might have been in Papua/ New Guinea or Borneo. Be sure to post picture of the Auster`s progress.

OOLILISSIMA · 29-12-2006

Duncan

Nice post, thanks. In particular, it's a relief to see that at least something is being produced sustainably.

**wonwinglo** · 30-12-2006

Check out the 'Scrimpers & Tightwads' section on this forum for lots of money saving tips on model building.

OOLILISSIMA · 31-12-2006

Wonwinglo wrote:

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Check out the 'Scrimpers & Tightwads' section...

Thanks, Barry. As you've probably gathered, I will benefit from some prompting to look around this website get a bit more to grips with its workings. If I'd done it earlier, this Auster G-AGOH/materials recycling thread wouldn't have found its way into in the Photographs section, and it would be somewhere rather more appropriate.

Greyhead · 31-12-2006

Do we think it's time to add an "Under Construction" section for build threads to keep them all in one place?

**wonwinglo** · 31-12-2006

There is a special place now for Auster talk and Auster builds,lets see plenty of photographs,I thought that the skeletal metal frame photograph was appropiate,every Auster has one.

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Do we think it's time to add an "Under Construction" section for build threads to keep them all in one place?

OOLILISSIMA · 02-01-2007

Greyhead wrote:

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Do we think it's time to add an "Under Construction" section for build threads to keep them all in one place?

and Wonwinglo replied:

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There is a special place now for Auster talk and Auster builds...

Please excuse me, Barry, if I have this somehow wrong, but what you have created appears to be an individual thread on the Chit-Chat forum. What Greyhead seems to be suggesting is a new forum. Unlike a thread, this would be sub-dividable into discrete threads, each of which could be dedicated to a particular project. The idea of an Auster forum is great, but is a single thread definitely going to enable the material to be organised to best effect? Could we possibly have an Auster forum and a Projects (or similarly named) forum as well, please?

**John** · 02-01-2007

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Originally Posted by Greyhead

Do we think it's time to add an "Under Construction" section for build threads to keep them all in one place?

It would make things eaiser, so now there is one

OOLILISSIMA · 24-01-2007

I hoped to have some bits of actual model to show by now, so here is an update.

While the model is very much still "on", I am a little bogged down in the design stage. I have arranged to check-measure G-AGOH, and also to measure a similar aircraft with no covering . This is to resolve some apparent issues with the factory drawings. Without this, I can’t actually build anything. I can't make the necessary visits for about three weeks from now, so it's frustrating.

For example, while on G-AGOH the aileron fulcrum is almost on the bottom of the wing, the works drawings show it about a third of the way up the aerofoil thickness and the arcs, and how they fit, or do not fit, within the aerofoil section, are therefore significantly different. This is surprising, as I have obtained a works drawing with written offsets, and the resulting aerofoil is smooth and looks correct. However, my own on-site measurements of the aileron taken from G-AGOH will not fit properly with the fulcrum in its correct position. Perhaps I have mis-measured. All I can do is measure again including, if necessary, measuring up the entire aerofoil section.

There also appear to be anomalies in the shape of fuselage produced by the measurements on the works drawings. Perhaps I am not visualising correctly.

I am told on good authority that some of the factory drawings do have errors, but it is a case of trial and error to find out which.

As I don’t have the plane in my back garden and a full set of drawings would cost several hundreds of pounds, all I can do is to measure the plane in much more detail and check my existing measurements. This time, I’ll take drawing board with me and draw as I measure as far as possible.