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Old 07-04-2008   #171 (permalink)
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forgive me for asking this , do you have dirty wire and clean wire separated ( as much as you can anyway ?) ie power wires separated from radio wires. having said that :
I have a 2.1 mtr long sub with long servo leads and an engel system and have no glitching whatsoever, non of my boats twitch.

Have you given the receiver battery pack a good inspection and tried a different pack ?? most radio faults can be down to a duff receiver pack ( dead cell etc, etc ) they can have just enough power to work but as soon as any load is applied the cannot cope.

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Old 07-04-2008   #172 (permalink)
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forgive me for asking this , do you have dirty wire and clean wire separated ( as much as you can anyway ?) ie power wires separated from radio wires. having said that :
I have a 2.1 mtr long sub with long servo leads and an engel system and have no glitching whatsoever, non of my boats twitch.

Have you given the receiver battery pack a good inspection and tried a different pack ?? most radio faults can be down to a duff receiver pack ( dead cell etc, etc ) they can have just enough power to work but as soon as any load is applied the cannot cope.

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Yea all my power lines and wires take a diverse route, well as much as I can anyway. I checked the reciever pack yesterday and there was one slight fault with a lead on the connector. But apart from that nothing obvious. I have brand new reciever batteries in, there just a standard 4 cell holder, with 1.2V NI-MH or NI-CADS, I cant remember which nowPlus tested with a load tester, they hold up fine.
The reciever itself was bought for this boat, as were the servos and main battery. Thats whats so puzzling, I wouldnt mind so much if I had cobbled it together The only thing I am going to try is to earth all the motors, cant harm.

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Paul.

I checked your build posts and noted you are using a metal watertight box lid...in my opinion radio doesn,t like metal boxes..screws up the signal etc and you may have some earthing issues with the electrical parts mounted onto the metal lid which when wet will earth everthing out, I always use clear poly carb lids, i noted mankster has done away with his metal lid too for a poly carb lid, plus you can always see whats going on inside too. Worth a check

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My thing is tanks obviously and forgive me for butting in. I have experienced fidgety servos and erratic behaviour in my first tank. The culprit was me not reading the instructions for the ESC. If i had read the instructions i would have known that the reciever did not need its own power supply. The ESC provided the power!! I had plugged in the battery pack for the reciever and it was also reciving power from the ESC. TOOMUCH POWER!! Silly tank would do stuff all on its own LOL
.Anyway....as soon as the seperate bat pack for the reciever was unplugged normal service was resumed.
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My thing is tanks obviously and forgive me for butting in. I have experienced fidgety servos and erratic behaviour in my first tank. The culprit was me not reading the instructions for the ESC. If i had read the instructions i would have known that the reciever did not need its own power supply. The ESC provided the power!! I had plugged in the battery pack for the reciever and it was also reciving power from the ESC. TOOMUCH POWER!! Silly tank would do stuff all on its own LOL
.Anyway....as soon as the seperate bat pack for the reciever was unplugged normal service was resumed.

Its not butting in at all! I welcome any suggestions, as would most on here.

I know what you mean though with the speed controler. I have 2 on board, and the BEC is disconected. I think the BEC can only produce about 1.5amps, which wouldnt be enough for a typhoon with all the gadgets it has on.

But I did check it was disconected this morning, just in case ! Changed so many things on this thing I feel like I am going in circles !

Again thanks for the tip

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Partial victory!

Hmm I am almost frightened to say this, but it seems I may be on the way to getting it sorted out!

I started by removing all the wires, totally ! Everything unplugged and removed ! All servos disconnected and batteries removed.
I have replaced some of the power supply cables with Shielded cable. One way or another that interference wasnt going anywhere !

I also took manksters suggestion, as in the Ferrite rings. I went to RS yesterday and ordered lots of the things. You would not believe how hard it is to order those over the phone. The poor lass on the order line thought I was trying to order Ferrit rings ?I thought "Ahh shes heard about this stupid boat as well and is taking the Pss!" The pressure must be getting to her !

So now all the power lines have the tubular rings, and the servo wires have the clip on type. They really do make a difference. I also removed the power line to the reciever pack, which was connected to a Futaba servo extension, and I braded the wires by hand, I dont like wires running in one length, slightley concerned about Induction.

Getting a bit paranoid now

I also bit the bullet and bought a new set of Crystals. I dont know if the old ones were dodgy, but not taking the chance. And while I was on I rang Subtech about the transmitter. And Dave seems to agree with me in that the Transmitter is partially responsible for the problem. He is confident that the batteries are shot. So more on there way!

So after all that was done I carefully powered it up, and all quiet ! Nothing juddering, noting twitchingI am nervous about saying its sorted, because its probably not knowing my luck, but hopefully on the way. The only thing I am having bother with is the switch for the bow thruster. The switch for it just wont work on my transmitter. But either the new batteries for it will sort it, or the handset is going back to Germany for repair. Apparently it wouldnt be the first one to make the journey

Anyways, enough for now, work beckons tommrrow!

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nice on mate! happy to hear you got it sorted (fingers crossed). As Bunk mentioned in my uboat thread better safe than sorry, i certainly wouldnt want a maiden voyage to be the last!!
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nice on mate! happy to hear you got it sorted (fingers crossed). As Bunk mentioned in my uboat thread better safe than sorry, i certainly wouldnt want a maiden voyage to be the last!!
I can only imagine the temperature of that lake at this time of year !

I would hate to have to go in after it ! 4ft seems awfully deep when you have no idea where it went !
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Well it seems to still be still working pretty well?!?! Up to now anyway!

I have just been sorting out the little bits before it goes back in the lake. The bow thruster was giving me a bit of grief yesterday, basically I thought the electrics had gone wonky again, because it wouldnt turn. Which was odd because a couple of days previous it worked. Anyways I started it up on the handset and nothing, turns out that a little piece of fibreglass had got stuck in the paddle inside the unit stopping it turning.

So out it came, and my god there was allsorts of junk in there !
The only problem is with it not having a fuse in, I have managed to blow the bloody electronic switch ! Bolks!!! My own fault, I should have put a fuse in, and checked to make sure it turned right before I powered it up. So I will use a speed controller I have instead.

I made a small tweak to the periscope mechanism as well, it wasnt moving up and down without manual intervention. Basically the plunger which activates the microswitches was slightly out, so a small adjustment to the positioning of the microswitches and sorted.

Now its just ready for the trimming at the lake, I may have to steal the better halfs car tonight, and nip down to the lake. Much better to get her car wet than mine, and I cant make it any less untidy !

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Glad you have it sorted...........Just found out MTRONIKS make a zero glitch module, may well be worth checking out their website if you get your "glitches " back.

Send us some pics of her in deep water . Sub.
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