Are we still talking about Jolie?\ said:
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Not yet Steve, been one of those days, non stop at work then held up picking the missis and wee one up, then grab dinner, then had to build the little fellas new bicycle, (that was like a kit in itself), just gotten him to bed with his story, (late but it's the weekend), and now checking here before I dive in the shower, it's been so warm up here the past couple of days I feel like i could be melting, (not complaining mind, it's lovely after all the lousy weather).
Have to mask and paint the stripes yet so needs to go over the crust as I can only do it once, as soon as the stripes are done i'll strip the rest of the salt and clearcoat it, I think I have gone overboard but i'll see what happens when i take it off.
The article I read was a heavily weathered JU52 floatplane conversion so that one was deliberately OTT but you never know, this Typhoon could have seen active service on a temporary beach airstrip with skeleton crew who had an aversion to cleaning. If I like the result I can always look at refining it on future models, while it's wet you can shift it about quite a bt though on this I simply misted the water and shook the salt over it.
Have to mask and paint the stripes yet so needs to go over the crust as I can only do it once, as soon as the stripes are done i'll strip the rest of the salt and clearcoat it, I think I have gone overboard but i'll see what happens when i take it off.
The article I read was a heavily weathered JU52 floatplane conversion so that one was deliberately OTT but you never know, this Typhoon could have seen active service on a temporary beach airstrip with skeleton crew who had an aversion to cleaning. If I like the result I can always look at refining it on future models, while it's wet you can shift it about quite a bt though on this I simply misted the water and shook the salt over it.
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I'm sure she prefers whipped cream and chocolate, (hope so anyway, i've got half a fridge full of double cream in anticipation):grinball2:
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Just masked and sprayed the white tonight for the stripes, (that's fun, masking over painted salt, burnishing it down and trying not do disturb it too much while still attempting to get a straight edge)
No piccies yet but will get some tomorrow when I prep and mask for the black parts.
No piccies yet but will get some tomorrow when I prep and mask for the black parts.
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awesome !!! I see what you mean now
You still going on about Angie or what?\ said:
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OK guys, latest shots, ID stripes painted, salt off with the aid of a toothpick and toothbrush.
After the pics I was about to airbrush coat it with xtracrylix gloss and then decided to do something I haven't done before.
Brush paint Klear as I'm not in the mood for decalling tonight I don't need a quick drying coat, it seemed to go OK, will see what it's like when dry but being so runny it self levels well.
One thing I noted, it started dissolving the acrylic coat underneath, only slightly but nonetheless and I was probably being a bit more vigorous with the brush than strictly necessary, guess that answers whether the new Klear dissolves in itself?
I know it's way OTT, but I have to say I like the effect, could certainly be useful for a scrap car scene, or potentially fun for a battle scarred armour dio for the tank fans.
I'll have a go at this one again but make it more subtle.
After the pics I was about to airbrush coat it with xtracrylix gloss and then decided to do something I haven't done before.
Brush paint Klear as I'm not in the mood for decalling tonight I don't need a quick drying coat, it seemed to go OK, will see what it's like when dry but being so runny it self levels well.
One thing I noted, it started dissolving the acrylic coat underneath, only slightly but nonetheless and I was probably being a bit more vigorous with the brush than strictly necessary, guess that answers whether the new Klear dissolves in itself?
I know it's way OTT, but I have to say I like the effect, could certainly be useful for a scrap car scene, or potentially fun for a battle scarred armour dio for the tank fans.
I'll have a go at this one again but make it more subtle.
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That is certainly one chipped aircraft. OK, may be a tad OTT but hats off to you for having a go especially on a 1:72!
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That's worked very well,thanks for showing us. I think it shows the effect very well. On a slight tangent I wouldn't worry too much about beautiful straight edges on invasion stripes as there is plenty of evidence to show they were hurriedly and far from perfectly applied at unit level on aircraft involved on D-Day. Ones that arrived subsequently had the markings applied at a higher level (MUs for the RAF) and tended to have a better job done on them.
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Found the first thing i'm unhappy with on the Academy Typhoon.
The decals, just started doing them tonight and having practically bathed them in microsol they are proving more resilient than I would have thought possible, they seem quite thick compared to most i've used.
I was hoping to have had all of them on but only gotten the roundels top and bottom and left the bottom ones soaking.
Oh well, hopefully once they're all on and it's top coated it'll be OK.
The decals, just started doing them tonight and having practically bathed them in microsol they are proving more resilient than I would have thought possible, they seem quite thick compared to most i've used.
I was hoping to have had all of them on but only gotten the roundels top and bottom and left the bottom ones soaking.
Oh well, hopefully once they're all on and it's top coated it'll be OK.
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Last pic before the flat /satin coat on the body of the model, gloss coated here with oil and pin wash just drying.
FYI, the gloss coat is Fimo gloss varnish, (tried courtey of my missis who has just added the Fimo stuff to her shop range), looks promising, water based acrylic and thins well with water and sprays nicely for anyone wanting to try it.
It looks to be glossier than any gloss acrylic i've yet tried, and i've gone through a few, Revell's acrylic gloss is awful, almost matte, Citadel Ardcoat, has badly clogged my brush on both occassions I've tried spraying it, strange as it's very thin before thinning, just seemingly dries very very quickly, Xtracrylix is not bad but this looks pretty good, I have yet to try it over a gloss painted surface though.
FYI, the gloss coat is Fimo gloss varnish, (tried courtey of my missis who has just added the Fimo stuff to her shop range), looks promising, water based acrylic and thins well with water and sprays nicely for anyone wanting to try it.
It looks to be glossier than any gloss acrylic i've yet tried, and i've gone through a few, Revell's acrylic gloss is awful, almost matte, Citadel Ardcoat, has badly clogged my brush on both occassions I've tried spraying it, strange as it's very thin before thinning, just seemingly dries very very quickly, Xtracrylix is not bad but this looks pretty good, I have yet to try it over a gloss painted surface though.
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That pin wash looks interesting. I've not tried that before so I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
One thing you didn't mention above is how Kleer/Future compares with the above gloss coats. It seems to be so widely used it would be interesting to see how it compares with the purpose manufactured products.
One thing you didn't mention above is how Kleer/Future compares with the above gloss coats. It seems to be so widely used it would be interesting to see how it compares with the purpose manufactured products.
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The pin wash is just to help define the seperations between moving panels, Flaps / Ailerons etc.
Re the Klear / Future
To be frank, (might upset some Klear fanataics here) Klear in my opinion is good for a basic gloss over before decalling and or washing.
It's tricky to spray becuase it's water thin, i've had runs more than once when airbrushed, brushed on is OK but having recently tried that out of curiosity as well as dissolving itself it also starts to dissolve acrylic paint if you give it more than a couple of brushes on the same area.
The other downside for me is it's drying time, it takes far too long and seems to attract dust too easily so needs to be covered imediately and let dry.
When you consider Hannants Xtracrylics gloss varnish is £3 for a large bottle, thins with water, sprays well and is dry in 15 minutes, (I can attest to trying it and doing an oil wash 30 minutes after and it was bone dry with the oil wash doing no damage to underlying paint), initial impressions with the Fimo stuff look to be similar too with quick drying times.
Klear however is still ideal for canopies and clear parts though I don't use it for much else now.
Re the Klear / Future
To be frank, (might upset some Klear fanataics here)
Klear in my opinion is good for a basic gloss over before decalling and or washing.It's tricky to spray becuase it's water thin, i've had runs more than once when airbrushed, brushed on is OK but having recently tried that out of curiosity as well as dissolving itself it also starts to dissolve acrylic paint if you give it more than a couple of brushes on the same area.
The other downside for me is it's drying time, it takes far too long and seems to attract dust too easily so needs to be covered imediately and let dry.
When you consider Hannants Xtracrylics gloss varnish is £3 for a large bottle, thins with water, sprays well and is dry in 15 minutes, (I can attest to trying it and doing an oil wash 30 minutes after and it was bone dry with the oil wash doing no damage to underlying paint), initial impressions with the Fimo stuff look to be similar too with quick drying times.
Klear however is still ideal for canopies and clear parts though I don't use it for much else now.
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Hiya,everyone has their own favourite products of course but I was a bit surprised to read that you'd found that Klear dissolved acrylic paint. I use Xtracrylix and Vallejo acrylics for the most part and have never had that happen to me.I always brush Klear on as I can't be arsed with faffing about with the airbrush and as you say it's not the easiest stuff to spray. I just wonder if the paint that you had trouble with was fully dried and cured.\ said:
As for Klear drying times,yes,I always leave it at least overnight between coats or before applying washes etc despite the fact it APPEARS dry after twenty minutes or so.
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Typhoon, finished, at last, also completed is the Airfix Hawker Hurricane, (Vintage 1/72), see my other thread on that one.
So one heavily weathered Typhoon using salt weathering on the body chipping off to show polished alu Humbrol metalcote underneath, same principal with the prop and spinner but scuffed paint off with sandpaper, I know it's OTT but I like it.
The kit was lovely to build, everything fit well, I don't think I had to use any filler at all, the only thing I really didn;t like at all were the decals, they were really thick and very resilient, I was practically sloshing Microsol on them and had to really fight with the serial on the left side to get it to settle over the bumps and ridges, a couple of tehm still lifted and silvered slightly too.
As an when I get around to the Tempest in the stash i'll think about getting some aftermarket decals.
Bugger, just noticed the exhaust stacks haven't been done, oh well, get onto that tomorrow.
So one heavily weathered Typhoon using salt weathering on the body chipping off to show polished alu Humbrol metalcote underneath, same principal with the prop and spinner but scuffed paint off with sandpaper, I know it's OTT but I like it.
The kit was lovely to build, everything fit well, I don't think I had to use any filler at all, the only thing I really didn;t like at all were the decals, they were really thick and very resilient, I was practically sloshing Microsol on them and had to really fight with the serial on the left side to get it to settle over the bumps and ridges, a couple of tehm still lifted and silvered slightly too.
As an when I get around to the Tempest in the stash i'll think about getting some aftermarket decals.
Bugger, just noticed the exhaust stacks haven't been done, oh well, get onto that tomorrow.
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m1ks great job looks outstanding !!!!def 5star from me.Great write up along with the build as well ,really enjoyed the wash info thanks.again nicely done
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Thankyou very much, kind words much appreicated.
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5 Stars from me. Stunning and very creative.
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