Allen's Nebelwerfer 42 auf Maultier, started in the late? 90's

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Evening all my fellow glue Sniffers Slingers,

First off, a big thank you to Peter for getting this GB going. It should be a lot of fun and maybe help clear the forgotten pile of started kits in the corner. I went through the stash and found I have 27 unfinished Works Of Art kits and projects. We won't talk about the really old kits from the last century as there are about 10 of those too......Enough Blah Blah....................

I picked this one out as I do have a thing for rockets and such and this fits the bill. This is the 1994 release and I really can't remember when I started it. I think it was in the latter half of the 90's or even in 2000. The kit,

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I didn't get very much done on it before it went back in the box. I can't remember why I stopped building it, but here's what we have to work with,

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Not too much has seen glue, other than the racks in the hull, the frame with workable steering and the motor halves. Two things need to be mentioned here. The rubber tires are a no-go and will be replaced with resin and the road wheels will also be replaced. The kit wheel, on the right, is not correct and my scratch jobs, in green, are not the best either. These will be replaced with a resin set from Royal Models. The sprues,

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As you can see, there are still a whole bunch of stuff on them,

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Here's a bunch too....I am debating on whether to use the kit tracks or give her a set Friuls. I'll decide when the time comes I guess. I don't plan on going crazy on it even though I have an Eduard etch set for it in the stash.....Ok maybe just a little. I will be using these to keep me on the straight and narrow,

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Good references are a must...............(Oh Lawdy, what have I gotten myself into this time!!!!!!!!!!............................)

Building will commence shortly or this weekend latest, if I survive my check-up on Wednesday. Sucks to be old..................

Prost
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Evening all my fellow glue Sniffers Slingers,

First off, a big thank you to Peter for getting this GB going. It should be a lot of fun and maybe help clear the forgotten pile of started kits in the corner. I went through the stash and found I have 27 unfinished Works Of Art kits and projects. We won't talk about the really old kits from the last century as there are about 10 of those too......Enough Blah Blah....................

I picked this one out as I do have a thing for rockets and such and this fits the bill. This is the 1994 release and I really can't remember when I started it. I think it was in the latter half of the 90's or even in 2000. The kit,

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I didn't get very much done on it before it went back in the box. I can't remember why I stopped building it, but here's what we have to work with,

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Not too much has seen glue, other than the racks in the hull, the frame with workable steering and the motor halves. Two things need to be mentioned here. The rubber tires are a no-go and will be replaced with resin and the road wheels will also be replaced. The kit wheel, on the right, is not correct and my scratch jobs, in green, are not the best either. These will be replaced with a resin set from Royal Models. The sprues,

View attachment 436022

As you can see, there are still a whole bunch of stuff on them,

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Here's a bunch too....I am debating on whether to use the kit tracks or give her a set Friuls. I'll decide when the time comes I guess. I don't plan on going crazy on it even though I have an Eduard etch set for it in the stash.....Ok maybe just a little. I will be using these to keep me on the straight and narrow,

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Good references are a must...............(Oh Lawdy, what have I gotten myself into this time!!!!!!!!!!............................)

Building will commence shortly or this weekend latest, if I survive my check-up on Wednesday. Sucks to be old..................

Prost
Allen (Ret.)
This will be good Dude 1
An interesting point is that the vapour trail of the rockets gave the location away to the Russians,where as the fuel used in the Russian one didn't.
The Germans were determined to find out what it was , but by the time they did it was too late in the war.
 
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Some great reference material there Allen. Looking forward to seeing the brown spot camo scheme. Good luck
 

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This will be good Dude 1
An interesting point is that the vapour trail of the rockets gave the location away to the Russians,where as the fuel used in the Russian one didn't.
The Germans were determined to find out what it was , but by the time they did it was too late .
You think they'd work on that from the outset, given how it was asking for retaliation of some sort......

"Dear Ivan, you know that rocket salvo I just deposited in your lap? Well, this is where I am currently located. I currently away your retribution in eager anticipation...."

Ok, so they could have moved fairly easily after a salvo, being in a motorised vehicle but then you've got the trouble of having to get your bearings and aiming points re-established.....

Thanks for the info John.

ATB.

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Hi Allen
Looks a nice kit. Deserves to be finished. Painting will be fun :rolling:
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Hi Mr D,
Good to see you tackling some of the shelf queens :smiling4:
I don’t feel so guilty about my small amount of unfinished builds now:cool:

Hope the check up goes ok on Wednesday mate :thumb2:
 

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Late afternoon good people,

This will be good Dude 1
An interesting point is that the vapour trail of the rockets gave the location away to the Russians,where as the fuel used in the Russian one didn't.
The Germans were determined to find out what it was , but by the time they did it was too late in the war.
Yes Sir Dude 2, Gonna be fun and thanks for the info. Please see below.........

Some great reference material there Allen. Looking forward to seeing the brown spot camo scheme. Good luck
Thanks Strevie! No luck and no brown spots until I figure out where it will be used.....................

Interesting little beast. Bring it on Allen.
I'm gonna try Tim. Only a bit over 300 with launchers built. The other 300+ were ammo carriers......................

You think they'd work on that from the outset, given how it was asking for retaliation of some sort......

"Dear Ivan, you know that rocket salvo I just deposited in your lap? Well, this is where I am currently located. I currently away your retribution in eager anticipation...."

Ok, so they could have moved fairly easily after a salvo, being in a motorised vehicle but then you've got the trouble of having to get your bearings and aiming points re-established.....

Thanks for the info John.
Hey Andrew, That's why they motorized these, Shoot and Scoot. See below too............

Hi Allen
Looks a nice kit. Deserves to be finished. Painting will be fun :rolling:
It is Jim and I haven't decided on a scheme yet. Don't let Stevie sway you.........................

Hi Mr D,
Good to see you tackling some of the shelf queens :smiling4:
I don’t feel so guilty about my small amount of unfinished builds now:cool:

Hope the check up goes ok on Wednesday mate :thumb2:
Hiya Mr. Benson! Great to see you buddy and I hope you and the family are well. Check up went ok and blood results in the morn. Should be good too??? Whatcha got working on the bench Si????

Allen Always like this one.
You and me both Lee and it's been hanging in the stash long enough. I hope all is well on your end my friend. How are you feeling these days???........

Now for a little background here before we all get crazy. These puppies were developed as a towed weapon/smoke unit like a small artillery piece. They were towed by a Sd. Kfz. 11/4, 3 ton half track. The first variant was a 150mm 6 barrel job with scissor legs and a foot in the front for stabilization. Then they made a 210mm 5 barrel job with the same undercarriage. These were problematic due to the fact they were towed and after firing a salvo, it took quite a while for the battery to bug out to a new location.(bring the half tracks up on line, hook the Nebelwerfer up and move out). The were very likely to be caught in retaliation fire by the enemy. The firing range of these was between 4000 - 6000 meters max. (useless info, One could load the top 3 barrels of the 150 or 2 of the top barrels on the 210 and fire on an advancing enemy at a bit over 100 meters. Pretty scary!)

The towed batteries had to be positioned with set azimuths and range bearings to be effective. These were designed to create smoke screens and saturated artillery barrages and not pin point specific like an artillery piece. With all this in mind, it was decided to make the Nebelwerfer more effective and efficient by mounting the launcher on a vehicle. Shoot a salvo, immediately move to a new location, Shoot another salvo and move again, before anyone had a chance to retaliate. There was no need for complicated set ups for azimuths or the like. After the tubes were loaded, it only took a few minutes to point and shoot the salvo as there were optics in the turret. The range for these was between 400 meters and 6900 meters.

These vehicles had good and bad sides though. With the tubes loaded, you only had one reload on board. Therefore, the battery had to have a constant re-supply of rockets. These were carried in the same type of maultier, but without the launcher on top. The ammo carrier could carry 30 rocket or enough for 3 salvos. Both of these vehicles were based on the Opel Blitz 3 ton Maultier and both carried an MG34 or 42 for self defence. Both were armored, but only against shrapnel and small arms fire. 8mm on the front and sides, 6mm on the roof and 10mm for the turret. Another downside was it's weight of 7,1 tons and that poor Opel 6 banger had to work real hard giving it a range of only 130 kms on the road and 80 kms off-road. These were manned with a 3 man crew.......

Ok, I could go on and on, but will stop now before you all fall asleep. I have made a little start with gluing things together, but nothing worth taking a pic of. I did dig out my accessoires,

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But honestly, other than the resin set, there isn't too much of use in the Eduard etch set at all. A lot of the Eduard set pieces are for the interior and as I plan on having this with only the loading hatch open, it would never be seen with a body standing in the hatch......

I want to get going with this tomorrow and the weekend. Now, as to John and Andrew's comments, the Germans started developing their own werfer based on captured Katyusha's in 1941. Check out Vielfachwerfer for a bit more info..........

Thanks for looking and have a great evening all.................

Prost
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Late afternoon good people,



Yes Sir Dude 2, Gonna be fun and thanks for the info. Please see below.........



Thanks Strevie! No luck and no brown spots until I figure out where it will be used.....................



I'm gonna try Tim. Only a bit over 300 with launchers built. The other 300+ were ammo carriers......................



Hey Andrew, That's why they motorized these, Shoot and Scoot. See below too............



It is Jim and I haven't decided on a scheme yet. Don't let Stevie sway you.........................



Hiya Mr. Benson! Great to see you buddy and I hope you and the family are well. Check up went ok and blood results in the morn. Should be good too??? Whatcha got working on the bench Si????



You and me both Lee and it's been hanging in the stash long enough. I hope all is well on your end my friend. How are you feeling these days???........

Now for a little background here before we all get crazy. These puppies were developed as a towed weapon/smoke unit like a small artillery piece. They were towed by a Sd. Kfz. 11/4, 3 ton half track. The first variant was a 150mm 6 barrel job with scissor legs and a foot in the front for stabilization. Then they made a 210mm 5 barrel job with the same undercarriage. These were problematic due to the fact they were towed and after firing a salvo, it took quite a while for the battery to bug out to a new location.(bring the half tracks up on line, hook the Nebelwerfer up and move out). The were very likely to be caught in retaliation fire by the enemy. The firing range of these was between 4000 - 6000 meters max. (useless info, One could load the top 3 barrels of the 150 or 2 of the top barrels on the 210 and fire on an advancing enemy at a bit over 100 meters. Pretty scary!)

The towed batteries had to be positioned with set azimuths and range bearings to be effective. These were designed to create smoke screens and saturated artillery barrages and not pin point specific like an artillery piece. With all this in mind, it was decided to make the Nebelwerfer more effective and efficient by mounting the launcher on a vehicle. Shoot a salvo, immediately move to a new location, Shoot another salvo and move again, before anyone had a chance to retaliate. There was no need for complicated set ups for azimuths or the like. After the tubes were loaded, it only took a few minutes to point and shoot the salvo as there were optics in the turret. The range for these was between 400 meters and 6900 meters.

These vehicles had good and bad sides though. With the tubes loaded, you only had one reload on board. Therefore, the battery had to have a constant re-supply of rockets. These were carried in the same type of maultier, but without the launcher on top. The ammo carrier could carry 30 rocket or enough for 3 salvos. Both of these vehicles were based on the Opel Blitz 3 ton Maultier and both carried an MG34 or 42 for self defence. Both were armored, but only against shrapnel and small arms fire. 8mm on the front and sides, 6mm on the roof and 10mm for the turret. Another downside was it's weight of 7,1 tons and that poor Opel 6 banger had to work real hard giving it a range of only 130 kms on the road and 80 kms off-road. These were manned with a 3 man crew.......

Ok, I could go on and on, but will stop now before you all fall asleep. I have made a little start with gluing things together, but nothing worth taking a pic of. I did dig out my accessoires,

View attachment 436112

But honestly, other than the resin set, there isn't too much of use in the Eduard etch set at all. A lot of the Eduard set pieces are for the interior and as I plan on having this with only the loading hatch open, it would never be seen with a body standing in the hatch......

I want to get going with this tomorrow and the weekend. Now, as to John and Andrew's comments, the Germans started developing their own werfer based on captured Katyusha's in 1941. Check out Vielfachwerfer for a bit more info..........

Thanks for looking and have a great evening all.................

Prost
Allen (Ret.)
Thanks for the background info!!! Not boring at all!!! Very informative!!!
 

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Alan I’m doing well nice goodie you have there to add. I’ve almost bought this thing a couple times on Sleezbay I don’t recall seeing this box art. Seated in the back who knows what Dude 2 is going to do once the action begins.
 

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Dude 2,
Nearly missed this. But I found it now and chair is pulled up. Good to see you at the bench again.
 

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Evening World,

Still alive, barely, but first........

Interesting stuff as always Allen. I love the history lesson as much as the modelling….
Thank you Tim. I try and give some info on my builds and some background data. It helps me to remember what I'm doing too!!!

Thanks for the background info!!! Not boring at all!!! Very informative!!!
You are most welcome Andrew and thank you for staying awake my friend. A lot of folks might not know about or have heard of some of the off-the-wall things I build (me included?)

Alan I’m doing well nice goodie you have there to add. I’ve almost bought this thing a couple times on Sleezbay I don’t recall seeing this box art. Seated in the back who knows what Dude 2 is going to do once the action begins.
Thanks Lee and the kit you see is probably the newest re-issue of this kit that came out a few years ago with different box art. Don't worry about Dude 2 as he is deeply involved in his own rockets now and also in his own garden at home. Winter's coming....

Dude 2,
Nearly missed this. But I found it now and chair is pulled up. Good to see you at the bench again.
Thank you my friend and it's great to be back. You haven't missed a whole lot really Paul. BTW I'm 1 and John is 2........

Unfortunately I don't have an update to share with you good people. A co-worker last week decided to share his cold with some of us at work and I got hammered really bad from it. Have spent most of the weekend sleeping and trying to get healthy again. Every time I wanted to play at the table and put on the optivisor, it turned on Niagara Falls. Out with the tissues and I learned, you can't stop the snot............

Hope to be back at the table in the next few days. Thanks so much for your comments and interest...And stay away from sick people at work if you can.........................

Prost
Allen (Ret.) feeling like :poop:.........
 

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Evening World,

Still alive, barely, but first........



Thank you Tim. I try and give some info on my builds and some background data. It helps me to remember what I'm doing too!!!



You are most welcome Andrew and thank you for staying awake my friend. A lot of folks might not know about or have heard of some of the off-the-wall things I build (me included?)



Thanks Lee and the kit you see is probably the newest re-issue of this kit that came out a few years ago with different box art. Don't worry about Dude 2 as he is deeply involved in his own rockets now and also in his own garden at home. Winter's coming....



Thank you my friend and it's great to be back. You haven't missed a whole lot really Paul. BTW I'm 1 and John is 2........

Unfortunately I don't have an update to share with you good people. A co-worker last week decided to share his cold with some of us at work and I got hammered really bad from it. Have spent most of the weekend sleeping and trying to get healthy again. Every time I wanted to play at the table and put on the optivisor, it turned on Niagara Falls. Out with the tissues and I learned, you can't stop the snot............

Hope to be back at the table in the next few days. Thanks so much for your comments and interest...And stay away from sick people at work if you can.........................

Prost
Allen (Ret.) feeling like :poop:.........
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Apologies Dude 1 feel better soon mate.
 

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Hi Allen
Quite a few people have been laid low with symptoms of a bad cold - sore throat, runny nose and feeling rotten. Hope you get better soon.
Enjoyed reading the historical background.
Jim
 

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Hop one for a speedy recovery Jim.

ATB.

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