Artesania Latina Cutty Sark

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Hi all i bought this off my brother (he decided it was too frustrating for him) there are a few problems to sort out on it (I need to strip the decking off and square the frame up , it's a bit warped) he took the planking off which has saved me a job (he bought some really thin wood for the planking as he struggled with the supplied wood but it's so thin I can see it disappearing when sanded do I'm going to use the supplied wood) here are some pics, I've managed to get the deck off fairly easily getting the wood off the deck and squaring the frame may be quite a bit harder.
This will be a very slow build.

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I think the pins hes used in the transom are way out of scale.
 

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HI Ken i'll be following your build cutty sark looks a treat under full sail if you can build her an I hope you can good to see another floaty build on here how big is she length an beam ? an the scale ? an yes these ships take a fair while to build as they are a work of art good luck on her
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Hi chris barring bowsprit (not added yet) she's a yard long, it's a very impressive kit.
 

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OH I say Ken she's a fair size then that should keep you busy whats she just gonna be a static model then ?
 

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Hi all well I've removed the deck planking squared up the frame and are attached the front decking. I thought I would get away with doing nothing to the rear deck but on closer inspection I think he put the last 2 bulkhead the wrong way round since the second to last is narrower than the last (the phrase one step forward 2 back comes to mind) anyway I managed to get the rear deck off now I'm not sure what to do the frames seem to be impossible to unglue, any suggestions (I've tried steaming over a kettle but they won't budge) would it hurt the plywood if I soaked the stern in a bucket over night.

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Hi Ken
Quite a task you have set yourself. I imagine these wooden ships are long term projects. It certainly looks as if those two bulkheads are the wrong way round. Rather than try to remove them and risk damage could you saw/sand a little off the last one and add a little to the narrow one? Just a thought.
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Hi Ken
Quite a task you have set yourself. I imagine these wooden ships are long term projects. It certainly looks as if those two bulkheads are the wrong way round. Rather than try to remove them and risk damage could you saw/sand a little off the last one and add a little to the narrow one? Just a thought.
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HI Ken Jim is right as ive had to do this on most of my ship 's scratch built hulls as the plans are not a 100% right an some time the hull frames are bigger or smaller than they should be It happend on my tiger build as my plans were 3mm out by the time the hull frame is drawn an cut out it goes either way.So out comes the dremel to put the hull frame to rights also you wont have to risk damageing the keel an to build the hull frame up to its correct size I use hard balsa which is easy to work on
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Thanks guys, I think that's the way I'm going on this. I will measure the widest one and the smallest then add to the smallest and remove from the widest.
 

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Spot on Ken :thumb2: you will find it saves a heck of a lot of work
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Good luck with this build , I'll be watching with interest. I started one of these last year and put it away as I have been travelling a lot and worry it's a bit too much above my skill level! DSC02588.JPG
 
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I am watching because I have their HMS Surprise as my retirement project.- WAY out of my league and experience(never built a ship....) but something I've always wanted to do.
good luck
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AN im lookin in as im building my hms tiger
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Thanks guys, more the merrier. I've built a few scratch built ships but only one wooden ship kit Amarti I think. The brumer yacht.Picture 006.jpgimg011 - Copy.jpgimg010.jpg
Nothing like this if it had been an unstarted kit I think it would be at the limit of my skill set, this will be a huge challenge.
 

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Well Ken for me that's the whole idea of a challenge like my tiger ive never built a battle crusier before an im glad to say its comin on great so there's the challenge of the build an the immence enjoyment when workin out how things are goin to be built an you will have the same enjoyment (hopefully )
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Hi all corrected the bulkheads next problem, now the side panels are correctly installed you can see the stern is too shallow so I will probably build this up with wood filler.

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Well 1 step backwards leads to another step backwards, deck had to come off again. I was about to start planking it again and I thought surely that hump shouldn't be there.

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Also I dont know if you can see it from the photo but there is a gap between the bulkhead and the deck (I thought the small oblong hole in the decking was a hatch or something at first but now I see it is a locating peg for the decking) another wrongly glued bulkhead.

I managed to get the bulkhead off (it wasn't fully home due to wood dust and glue formed at the bottom of the joint) (all nicely held in place with dried glue) took ages to cut it all away, anyway as you can see it's all nicely flush and fitted now.

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Hopefully I can now proceed as if it were a new kit (apart from the splits in all the bulkheads due to where it was planked before cant think of anything to do about that, if I glue them back together I think it will make it too hard to put new pins in) I'm hoping when its replanked I can drill holes for the pins (they will only be for show anyway)
 

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HI Ken very nicely done you are getting on great guns
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Ok so I've decided to start decking it, the instructions are not at all clear it shows you decking over the false deck by 2 mm for the first 120 mm and no longer mentions that afterwards (I can understand that as the planking for the sides is 2mm thick) but why stop that overlap at 120 mm, I looked at pics of the waterways on the actual ship and it looks like there is a wooden strip all the way along the ship from the front to the stern step so I decided to continue the strip all the way along, first problem was keeping a 4 mm wide strip at 2 mm on the deck and 2mm in the air so I decided to add the first plank on the sides and put the waterways over that, I figure the more accurate I can get the first plank the rest must be better so I took great efforts with the first plank.

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Hi all whilst waiting for my planking to come I decided to start on some of the many other things in this kit, here is a start on one of the cabins.

It's like a kit in its self, I have a feeling I'm going to love this kit, for the calking between the planks I used a lead pencil and just ran it along the edges of the planks.

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