Johns 1/35 Zevzda StuG B for Bobs GB

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Afternoon StuG fans I have joined the build with a captured Stug !!!


First a brief explanation about captured Stugs, it is thought by many that the Russians used captured Stugs and pressed them into service, but is wholly inaccurate.

This according to research , Stugs were captured true, photos showing Russian crews posed with them true.

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Red Armymen posing on a captured StuG III from StuG. Abt. 197, August 1941.


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That same vehicle at the NIIBT Proving Grounds, early September of 1941. The damage to the suspension and the letter E on the side can be clearly seen.

On August 15th, the battalion was located at the city of Kanev, where fierce battles for the Dnieper were fought. Soviet infantry counterattacks managed to capture at least two StuG III Ausf. B from StuG. Abt. 197. The vehicles from 3rd battery was captured intact and was used in a photoshoot with the soldiers who captured it. The second vehicle, #90247 with the name Prinz Eugen, was also mobile. According to StuG. Abt. 197 records, both vehicles were lost after hitting mines. After brief repairs, they were transferred to the Soviet rear.

The assertion that at least one of the vehicles went to fight with a Soviet crew is often made, but this is not true. In early September, the vehicles from 3rd battery was already at the NIIBT Proving Grounds. As for Prinz Eugen, it was transferred to the rear of the Central Front. A brief description was composed, with the trophy getting the name "medium German tank T-3 with an immobile turret". The description included external and internal characteristics of the vehicle. These characteristics were fairly close to the real ones. Despite the urgency, the specialists who studied the vehicle had time to partially take it apart and put it back together.

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The second captured StuG III Ausf. B from StuG. Abt. 197.


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That same vehicle from the left. This StuG had the personal name "Prinz Eugen".



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This will be my entry, going to have some Fruils tracks, some Russian officers standing around looking at it with a couple of Russian crew.

With kind permission from Peter @ http://tankarchives.blogspot.com/2016/04/stug-in-ussr.html to whom I am grateful.


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This had been hard to find , in the end it actually came from a Russian seller.
I've started the hull, wheels are on, one minor problem is the track adjuster, I've had this problem before . but can't see the diagram very clearly.
Think it should be like this.

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Sorry its upside down , !

John.
 

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Thanks for the intro John and a neat subject to build, looking forward to see it coming together :thumb2: .

Track tensioner position is correct as far as I can see, my Tamiya has a similar set-up, maybe you can leave the idler-axle off until attaching the Fruils for a test fit?
 

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Ah there it is, just cleaned me bins:upside:

Adjuster looks ok to me

Good back ground story John, hope those russkis cleaned there boots before getting there mits on a lovely Stug:tongue-out3:

Welcome sir!
 

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Thanks for the intro John and a neat subject to build, looking forward to see it coming together :thumb2: .

Track tensioner position is correct as far as I can see, my Tamiya has a similar set-up, maybe you can leave the idler-axle off until attaching the Fruils for a test fit?
Hi Fernando , good call mate, I will do that, might be the best plan . Thanks. :thumb2::thumb2::thumb2::thumb2:.

Ah there it is, just cleaned me bins:upside:

Adjuster looks ok to me

Good back ground story John, hope those russkis cleaned there boots before getting there mits on a lovely Stug:tongue-out3:

Welcome sir!
Hi Bob, hope your feeling a little better, stay in the warm , cats on your lap by the fire.
That's a relief , I'm going to leave it off until the Fruils are ready to fit, them wack it on !Oh by the way no 4 BO, SUCH A SHAME.:cold-sweat:

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Hi John - I got the same kit from the same place :thumb2:

Quite a bit of flash and most parts have mould flare on the edges
 

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Not to bad thanks John

Hang on NO green, is your party bucket empty????
No Bob I've got to use some strange grey colour.:smiling3:.
Historical info appreciated, same as in the chat thread. I am curious to see how this ends out :smiling:
Hi Christian, welcome aboard, any thing could and can happen with my builds !

Interesting bit of history John and you're off and running already.
Andy yes up and away, being retired I seem to have more and more on the go at this time of the year, can't sit about twiddling my thumbs it would drive me madder than I already am :tongue-out3::upside:.
Hi John - I got the same kit from the same place :thumb2:

Quite a bit of flash and most parts have mould flare on the edges
Hi Simon, yes indeed, the suspension arms that fit into the top of the hull had a complete lip , I thought it was a strange flange thingy ! Then realising trimmed it back :smiling3: .
 

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How many Stugs have we got being built on the forum?? Bob has a lot to answer for :smiling2: :smiling5:

Sorry to have missed the start. Your a brave man to have two builds going at once. Looks like its all going in the right direction.
 

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How many Stugs have we got being built on the forum?? Bob has a lot to answer for :smiling2: :smiling5:

Sorry to have missed the start. Your a brave man to have two builds going at once. Looks like its all going in the right direction.
Two you say , ha, it's 3, :flushed::nerd: still have to finish the cycling German ,just a mere few brush strokes to the figure, and tie down his kit . At least it doesn't have too many wheels !

The master plan is working. Never seen so many since i last looked at the stash:thumb2:
Ha, :smiling2::smiling2::nerd:.


John,
Your off to a great start will follow along
Your more than welcome Paul, it no doubt will be fun for those watching ! :smiling3:.


Might get some more done tomorrow, but really need to finish the bike dio, try to get those horrible track things on the BT- 5 first .
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Well been doing other builds and have now caught up.

All wheels are on, with the exception of the track adjusted idler, going to leave that until the Fruils are about to be fitted.
The barrel plate looks a bit odd to me, but according to the superb rubbish instructions from Zvezda which are about as clear as a foggy night I have left it unglued until a StuG expert should tell me otherwise.

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No barrel its self, not on the sprue, just the no 26, so will find out how long etc and make one up.

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The Eagle eyed will note that there is no periscope showing, its not on the photo ! so have left off.

Comments more than welcome, good bad indifferent or just rude ! :smiling2: Any remarks about black glue or any other amount of TET marks will be ignored.:tongue-out3:
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The barrel plate looks a bit odd to me, but according to the superb rubbish instructions from Zvezda which are about as clear as a foggy night I have left it unglued until a StuG expert should tell me otherwise.
The plate just to the rear of the muzzle seems to have an odd forward angle to it when the barrel is horizontal. Drawings I just looked at show it as perpendicular to the barrel, not angled like this.
 

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The plate just to the rear of the muzzle seems to have an odd forward angle to it when the barrel is horizontal. Drawings I just looked at show it as perpendicular to the barrel, not angled like this.
Thanks Jakko, mines not glued so might be slightly forward.
Could you please show me the drawing if possible .
 

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Here’s one much like it:

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(I looked in Spielberger’s Sturmgeschütz, which has lots of drawings by Hilary Doyle like this one.)
 

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Thanks Jakko, gives me a much better idea.:thumb2:
 

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Evening all, a good afternoon in the cave enjoying myself building up the tracks using Easy Link Metal Tracks.

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Blown up , but you can see those tabs that ere used to connect.

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Also fitted the track adjuster and front idler wheel.
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There are 5 holes on the hull side, to connect the track guard, but they have two pins in a vertical line, so should I cut one off ? and just use the top , I don't even think the holes line up with the track guard guard pins anyway.

Also looking at the track guard its self there are numerous holes on the underside, the top has a lot filled with flash, and most of them do not line up with any of the kit. Of course I've had the front light brkt fall off that many times, I have no idea which way up it should be as the drawing consist of a line ! very helpful NOT.

They lighter grey in the hull is MR Hobby 500 .

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and the rear.
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It has the appearance of a StuG, although those front wheels are incorrect according to the photo , but I can't do anything about that as the other ones in the kit would also be wrong.
All good fun with the odd swear word so its going well .
Comments always welcome.
John.
 

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Coming along nicely mate. For future reference if you dont glue the rear idler wheel until you have fitted the tracks you can adjust the tightness of the track with it allowing you to determine how much sag you want. Nice to see you had your manicure today before taking the photos:thumb2::cool:
 
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