JR/T34/85 Toon Tank Destroyer

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JR/T34/85 Toon Tank Destroyer.

A bit of history first on the tank Commander.
Dzhon Gonka was a young Russian who entered the Tank Corps as a young recruit, he was in the 20th Tank Corps, he rose through the ranks very quickly and was in the thick of it very soon at the Battle of Khalkhin Gol. His first major action was at the Battle of Kurks and within days he had become a tank ace.
He fought at the battle of Berlin and was awarded Russia’s highest award the Order of BS with honours for his 1000th tank kills.
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Tank Commande Dzhon Gonka at this passing out parade.

For this achievement his tank barrel was painted completely white.
After the German surrender Dzhon Gonka went on his own European tour in his tank eventually ending up at a French port where he bribed some dodgy French sailors to put his tank on a ship bound for Blighty.
On arrival he travelled extensively and ended up in Lincolnshire where he settled down and is now know as Race Towers, you can often see him rumbling down the road in his green beast to the local garden centre Waterside, just off the main road from Bourne to Peterborough. His second home , where he is very well known!!
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JR/T34/85 Toon Tank Killer

Over 35,000 T-34s were produced during World War Two. Production of the T-34 alone significantly outnumbered the total production of all types of German tanks. Considering this enormous production run, the vehicle remained remarkably standardised.

All T-34s shared a welded hull featuring very advanced, ballistically effective, sloped armour on all sides; a 500 horsepower 12 cylinder "V-2" diesel engine combined with a four speed transmission (plus one reverse gear) powering rear-mounted drive sprockets; "Christie" sprung suspension; five large paired roadwheels on each side of the vehicle and a wide, two-part track link. Apart from minor details, this basic configuration remained unchanged for the entire production run.

The main variations between T-34 models were in armament, turret design, roadwheels and track links.

The first production version of the T-34, the Model 1940, was equipped with an L-11 76.2 mm gun as its main armament. Even this early, relatively short gun was more than a match for contemporary German armour. The Model 1941 introduced the "F-34" model 76.2 mm tank gun of 42 calibres. This remained the main armament for all subsequent T-34/76 variants.

A programme to replace the T-34 was initiated in 1941. The new developments concentrated on improving armour, suspension and crew ergonomics. However, during the battle of Kursk in summer 1943, the Red Army first encountered the Tiger and Panther tanks. These heavy Panzers proved a shock to Soviet tank troops, whose previously superior T-34 tanks were ineffective against the big German newcomers.

The F-34 76.2 mm gun was now useless against the heavy frontal armour of the Tiger and Panther, so priority was redirected away from a T-34 replacement and toward supplying more punch for the basic T-34 chassis. The T-34/85 was the Soviet's expedient answer to these powerful new adverseries.

It is a credit to the basic design of the T-34 that it was possible to add a heavier, three man turret and a more powerful main gun on a virtually unaltered chassis and turret ring.

Model 1943
The T-34/85 Model 1943 was a stopgap measure while acceptance trials were being finalised for the ZiS-S-53 85mm gun.
The Model 1943 turret displayed a unique style of bolted collar and was equipped with the shorter D-5T 85mm gun. This interim model also featured a rounded front-hull join, rounded front fenders and no turret fillet. Approximately 800 T/34/85 Model 1943 were produced at Gorkiy early in 1944.

Model 1944
The Model 1944 was equipped with the definitive ZiS-S-53 85mm gun, a redesigned mantlet and altered turret interior. The alternate turret layout required the commander's cupola to be relocated 40cm aft of its original position. All but the first production batch of the Model 1944 featured this relocated cupola.
From the Model 1944 onward, the hull was adapted to the larger turret by the addition of steel fillets welded to the upper hull directly below the turret overhang at the front and sides. The front fillet joining the glacis plate and lower hull was also changed to a sharp angle, and fenders were sometimes simplified and squared off.
A number of different construction techniques became evident during Model 1944 production. The "standard" Model 1944 developed flattened lower-mid turret sides; while significant numbers were produced in a composite (using two separate castings) or laminate steel finish. Other Model 1944 T-34s featured a diagonal join at the turret side front instead of the more common step join and welded rectangular fillet.

Model 1945
The Model 1945 T-34/85 actually entered service during 1944. It featured a larger cupola that extended very close to the port edge of the turret, requiring a tiny "lip" underneath on the turret side. The cupola hatch was revised from the original two-part split hatch to a large, single "flap" hatch. The lower turret sides had a "flattened" lateral profile on vehicles produced at Nizhniy, Tagil and Chelyabinsk. A small, rectangular bulge was added to the casting for the Model 1945 and all subsequent models to accommodate an electric turret traverse. Smoke racks and dispensers were added to the rear hull of this model as a standard item, although late-production Model 1944s were also equipped with these.

Model 1946
The Model 1946 entered service during 1945 and saw front-line action in the closing days of "The Great Patriotic War".
It could be distinguished from the Model 1945 by its "fuller" lower turret sides and the new configuration of ventilator domes. Previous models of the T-34/85 had twinned ventilator domes toward the rear of the turret roof. The Model 1946 introduced separate domes - one at the rear and one toward the front of the turret roof (note that some Model 1944 Laminate Turret T-34/85s shared this feature).

Parts used for this build.
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Before and after modifcation work.
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Comparison of the two toon T 76 and 85
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A bit on wheels.

It was common for T-34/85s to wear either a matching set of wheels or a combination of wheel types. No firm rules apply for the type of wheel fitted to the particular type of tank.

The diameter of the combined wheel and tyre was XXX mm for all types. All T-34/85 wheels were secured to the suspension by six bolts around the hub. All wheels also featured a small, domed hub cap attached with five small bolts.

Early Dished Wheels
The "Early Dished Wheel" was a solid dished steel wheel with a solid rubber tyre. The tyre was perforated at the edges and along the outside walls. These wheels were commonly seen on Model 1943 and Model 1945 T-34/85s.

Late Dished Wheels
The "Late-Dished Wheel" was similar to the "Early Dished" style, but the tyre did not have perforations. The "Late Dished Wheel" was sometimes seen on very late-war T-34/85s, but more commonly on post-war vehicles.

Half Spider Wheels
The "Half-Spider Wheel" was a cast steel wheel featuring 12 large lightening holes around the outer edge of the rim, 6 smaller lightening holes closer to the hub, and 6 narrow reinforcing ribs radiating out from the hub to the rim between the holes. The rubber tyre was perforated in the same manner as the "Early Dished Wheel". "Half-Spider Wheels" entered production in late 1943, and therefore may have been fitted to any T-34/85 variant.

Full Spider Wheels
The "Full-Spider Wheel" was similar in design to the "Half-Spider" variety, but with 12 small lightening holes close to the hub instead of 6. The full-radius reinforcing ribs also doubled to 12. The "Full-Spider" tyre was solid rubber with no perforations. Curiously, the Full-Spider Wheel" entered production at about the same time as the "Half-Spider" variety, although it is more common to see this type of wheel installed on very late-war and post-war vehicles.

Starfish Wheels
This cast steel wheel is reinforced by incorporating a "wave" pattern around its radius. One lightening hole correspond to the highest point of each of five "waves" near the wheel’s rim. Tyres are of the non-perforated variety. It is possible that some late-war vehicles may have been fitted with this style of wheel. There is at least one photograph which seems to support this claim. However, it is more usual to find this style of wheel on very late post-war vehicles.

Modified the rear exhaust pipe covers , drilled out the end off the exhaust pipe.
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Thank you for looking in more to come.

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Vsem Privet Tovarishchi.

Decided to thin down the track guards and have all so removed the front round mud guard and will replace it with a flat one.

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Pete,
Great history lesson just goes to show that the designers got it right first time as far as the hull was concerned.
 
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Hi removed most of the hull details and the turret ballistic ring, added rear exhausts, spare side fuel drums, grab handels, front M/G and filled holes.

Removed turret ballistic ring and made flat.
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Hi got a bit more done.

Made up 3x stoage bins, added front track guard and hinges, added tools and made the saw/ holder,added
engine cover hinges, 2x vent pipes, nuts that rae missing.
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Hi Pete - off to a good start

depending on how accurate you want this to be, given the inherently inaccurate nature of these kits - tree saw should be on the left side of the hull behind the stowage box
 
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Hi Simon thank you for dropping in, I know I've put it on the wrong side it's a bit lost behind the other two storage bins, the two fuel drums are also wrong missing two handles and top filler and the towing eyes a wrong can't find the right ones in my spares box, I think it's a bit more accurate than the one out of the box.
Don't think Mr Race has spotted it yet or if he has he doesn't like it.
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Hi, so on to the turret which is a two part resin kit barrel & turret, as you see I haven't done a lot to it as it didn't need it just a few rivets, handlles and couple of hole added. Looks like I'm going to finish it before John even take a seat.

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Build part complete.
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Cracking Pete

Now buy a new keyboard, you must have worn out the letters!!!
 
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Right I'm here. :nerd:
Brilliant intro by the way :smiling3::smiling3::smiling3::smiling3::smiling3: Pete.

I had missed this completely, like many others I do, so have to say sorry. :cold-sweat:

The history of the T34 is good , hard to do in such a nutshell but you have done it well . The design of the T34 is said to have been the most major significant event in future tank design worldwide.
Great build, esp the use of the odd whees as you touchched on. There is a good article on www.allwars.com /T34 if you
want , ( or asmad as me ) in fact it's the service manual from 1942 .
Looking fwd to the next stage .
 

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Hi pete
I'm another who missed the start of this. Love the way you manage to improve these 'toon tanks. Their very nature is for them to be distorted for fun but still clearly recogniseable - your additions really add to the look.
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Still going strong I see, keeping an eye on you even though I am not saying a lot...
After all it has laready been said.
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Right I'm here. :nerd:
Brilliant intro by the way :smiling3::smiling3::smiling3::smiling3::smiling3: Pete.

I had missed this completely, like many others I do, so have to say sorry. :cold-sweat:

The history of the T34 is good , hard to do in such a nutshell but you have done it well . The design of the T34 is said to have been the most major significant event in future tank design worldwide.
Great build, esp the use of the odd whees as you touchched on. There is a good article on www.allwars.com /T34 if you
want , ( or asmad as me ) in fact it's the service manual from 1942 .
Looking fwd to the next stage .
Hi John I'm so pleased you enjoyed the short story was a bit worried how it would go down, I will do my best.
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