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Dear all
Quite how this idea came about and whose idea it was is still a matter of debate! I will admit I did say here “Have we had a Russian plane GB......” but that is not the same as saying I would do one…..but I’ll get over it!
@KarlW, who seemingly put me in the frame for it here, has kindly agreed to be the joint sponsor of the GB. I’ve never run or even suggested a GB and so need all the help I can get, hence me asking Karl to join me.
The ‘rules’ for the proposed GB are below and we have tried to think of all eventualities but obviously we may have missed something and so are open to any sensible suggestions or questions.
Is anyone interested? We may already have three other participants, no pressure at all @yak face , @papa 695 and @The Smythe Meister !!!
All the best.
Andrew and Karl
Mods (Ian and Al) - thanks for your input! I did read Ian's guide on GBs, so hopefully it meets the requirements.
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Proposed GB rules
GB period
1st October to 31st December 2023, so as to avoid Andy’s Japanese plane GB.
Historical timeframe
From the outbreak of World War II on 1st September until its end i.e. Japanese unconditional surrender. This allows us to capture Russia’s invasion of Poland and the Russo-Finnish Winter War** too, as well as the obvious 1941-1945 period. It does though exclude the pre-existing Russo-Japan conflicts i.e. Khalkin Gol.
**Not sure if that’s technically part of WW II but it’s in the right period.
Scale
Any scale up to an including 1:1
Presentation
Standalone models (with or without pilots and/or bases), small vignettes or even full blown dioramas are allowed (if you think you can pull it off in three months). Although in the case of dioramas the plane must obviously be the focus.
Plane/kit options
This was harder than I (Andrew) thought it would be but then I do have a habit over thinking things……I blame the mindset I need for my job
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So what do we mean by “active frontline service”? Whilst this is open to debate, we’re suggesting anything that saw active service in frontline duties in ‘reasonable’ numbers***.
So in the case of Soviet planes, only those in full scale production; no protypes allowed. However, planes sent to squadrons in relatively large numbers for large scale evaluation are in as they would have seen a fair amount of combat e.g. LaGG-1s (c. 100 apparently).
In the case of Lend Lease aircraft this would exclude single planes or small numbers of a type sent only for testing/evaluation purposes e.g. as we did with a Mossie. All Lend Lease aircraft will obviously need to carry the relevant Soviet markings where appropriate.
***As we said this was not easy to define but try to think about the spirit of what we’re aiming for. This list might give you an idea of what they used but obviously check the facts for the for ‘unusual’ options, it is Wikipedia after all .……………
en.wikipedia.org
Quite how this idea came about and whose idea it was is still a matter of debate! I will admit I did say here “Have we had a Russian plane GB......” but that is not the same as saying I would do one…..but I’ll get over it!
@KarlW, who seemingly put me in the frame for it here, has kindly agreed to be the joint sponsor of the GB. I’ve never run or even suggested a GB and so need all the help I can get, hence me asking Karl to join me.
The ‘rules’ for the proposed GB are below and we have tried to think of all eventualities but obviously we may have missed something and so are open to any sensible suggestions or questions.
Is anyone interested? We may already have three other participants, no pressure at all @yak face , @papa 695 and @The Smythe Meister !!!
All the best.
Andrew and Karl
Mods (Ian and Al) - thanks for your input! I did read Ian's guide on GBs, so hopefully it meets the requirements.
-----------------------------------------------------
Proposed GB rules
GB period
1st October to 31st December 2023, so as to avoid Andy’s Japanese plane GB.
Historical timeframe
From the outbreak of World War II on 1st September until its end i.e. Japanese unconditional surrender. This allows us to capture Russia’s invasion of Poland and the Russo-Finnish Winter War** too, as well as the obvious 1941-1945 period. It does though exclude the pre-existing Russo-Japan conflicts i.e. Khalkin Gol.
**Not sure if that’s technically part of WW II but it’s in the right period.
Scale
Any scale up to an including 1:1
Presentation
Standalone models (with or without pilots and/or bases), small vignettes or even full blown dioramas are allowed (if you think you can pull it off in three months). Although in the case of dioramas the plane must obviously be the focus.
Plane/kit options
This was harder than I (Andrew) thought it would be but then I do have a habit over thinking things……I blame the mindset I need for my job
:- All Soviet designed and built planes that saw active frontline service during the war e.g. Yaks, LaGGs, PE-3s, IL-2s, Tupolevs etc.
- Also, any Lend-Lease aircraft that saw active frontline service with the Soviet air force during the war e.g. P-39 Airacobra, P40s, A20 Havocs etc.
So what do we mean by “active frontline service”? Whilst this is open to debate, we’re suggesting anything that saw active service in frontline duties in ‘reasonable’ numbers***.
So in the case of Soviet planes, only those in full scale production; no protypes allowed. However, planes sent to squadrons in relatively large numbers for large scale evaluation are in as they would have seen a fair amount of combat e.g. LaGG-1s (c. 100 apparently).
In the case of Lend Lease aircraft this would exclude single planes or small numbers of a type sent only for testing/evaluation purposes e.g. as we did with a Mossie. All Lend Lease aircraft will obviously need to carry the relevant Soviet markings where appropriate.
***As we said this was not easy to define but try to think about the spirit of what we’re aiming for. This list might give you an idea of what they used but obviously check the facts for the for ‘unusual’ options, it is Wikipedia after all .……………
List of aircraft of the Red Army Air Forces - Wikipedia
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