Trumpeter Graf Spee start 2016

[Steve Jones]

Great work on the wooden decks mate. Its coming along a treat

 

[BattleshipBob]

Great work on the wooden decks mate. Its coming along a treat

Thanks Steve, well i hope. Nails can start growing back now!

 

[BattleshipBob]

To keep my tiny mind going, added more wooden decks, however mistake on rear deck, D'Oh

Also gloss varnished so hull and superstructure ready for a bit of weathering! Not sure how grotty the superstructure should be??

Can understand the crew leaving the hull alone at sea, but suspect the supertructure would be kept much cleaner??

Can someone advice??

 

[adt70hk]

Bob sorry, completely missed the updates over the festive period. That's turned out beautifully!!

ATB.

Andrew

 

[peterairfix]

Just caught up lovely build so far.

 

[BattleshipBob]

Just caught up lovely build so far.

Many thanks Peter

Getting better at floaty stuff!

 

[boatman]

Many thanks Peter

Getting better at floaty stuff!

YEA you are Bob m8ty as hey say practice makes perfect an you are there nice work cant help but admire
chris

 

[Ian M]

I'll probably get corrected by the navy lads but here goes.
Sailing around looking for a fight was 5 - 10% of the job the rest was keeping house. Ships where normally kept clean and tidy. "Ship shape and Bristol fashion" comes to mind.
Decks scrubbed, paint washed down and repaired/repainted. Even the hull down to the water line. Weather permitting that is. A clean and tidy ship is a safe one. And it is what is keeping you alive.
Ships rust! Salt and steel not a good mix but was kept at bay the best it could.
Escort ships, Corvettes and the such worked their butts off and could get pretty beaten up while at sea, There where kept clean and tidy, rust on the other hand could get to be an issue.
Dirt places you would expect, edges and corners, bunkers hatches, coal shoots and the such.

 

[JR]

Bob the deck is good, from what I can gather it's laser cut and either one piece bass wood or laminate .
Working in something that small is not the easiest thing when it comes to timbers due to grain. Very easy to split and mess the whole thing up.
You've done well .

 

[Tim Marlow]

To keep my tiny mind going, added more wooden decks, however mistake on rear deck, D'Oh
View attachment 442193
Also gloss varnished so hull and superstructure ready for a bit of weathering! Not sure how grotty the superstructure should be??

Can understand the crew leaving the hull alone at sea, but suspect the supertructure would be kept much cleaner??

Can someone advice??

Hi Bob.
Deck looks good, and I can’t see the issue you mention. As to superstructure and ship cleanliness, depends on the period in question really. In the Edwardian RN it was expected that a ship would be completely repainted every time it entered port. As soon as they dropped anchor the lads were out with the paintbrush…..this is detailed in several memoirs of the time.
Peacetime naval regimes would also major in cleanliness because it engenders pride in the crew and keeps them occupied. A big gun battle wagon would have a lot of gun crew to keep gainfully employed if the guns were not firing…..
However, the ship paintwork would look a bit worn and salt encrusted after a long winter Atlantic voyage, for example, so coming out of port it would be very clean, and going in could be pretty dirty and faded. After coaling a coal fired ship would be filthy until it was cleaned down, as would be the crew.
Wartime would be different though. Short turn around between cruises would minimise the time available for that sort of bull, and the crews would spend much more time at station in combat zones.
Loads to think about, so as always you need to decide the where and when the model is set.
Hope the personal issues are still going OK, by the way.

 

[boatman]

VERY well put Tim an Bob you are to self consuish of any little error just enjoy the build you are doin as we are at seeing this biuld as to me you are gettin good at these floaty things an will forget all about these stuggy things LOL
Chris

 

[BattleshipBob]

Bob the deck is good, from what I can gather it's laser cut and either one piece bass wood or laminate .
Working in something that small is not the easiest thing when it comes to timbers due to grain. Very easy to split and mess the whole thing up.
You've done well .

Hi John

Not sure what its made from, but i think it looks good, biggest problem is how sticky the backing is, i know it has to be but tricky to handle lol

Hi Bob.
Deck looks good, and I can’t see the issue you mention. As to superstructure and ship cleanliness, depends on the period in question really. In the Edwardian RN it was expected that a ship would be completely repainted every time it entered port. As soon as they dropped anchor the lads were out with the paintbrush…..this is detailed in several memoirs of the time.
Peacetime naval regimes would also major in cleanliness because it engenders pride in the crew and keeps them occupied. A big gun battle wagon would have a lot of gun crew to keep gainfully employed if the guns were not firing…..
However, the ship paintwork would look a bit worn and salt encrusted after a long winter Atlantic voyage, for example, so coming out of port it would be very clean, and going in could be pretty dirty and faded. After coaling a coal fired ship would be filthy until it was cleaned down, as would be the crew.
Wartime would be different though. Short turn around between cruises would minimise the time available for that sort of bull, and the crews would spend much more time at station in combat zones.
Loads to think about, so as always you need to decide the where and when the model is set.
Hope the personal issues are still going OK, by the way.

Thanks Tim

I was thinking the same as per wartime, not much time for bull, crews on alert all the time

Will hopefully do some streaks, chipping and rust on the hull, i know Graf Spee was at sea for a while and a lot of sea miles. Will try to do a bit of grime on the superstructure but restrained.

Thats the plan lol

Julies dad is slowly improving but still poorly, thanks for your concern Tim

 

[stillp]

Glad there's some better news about your FIL Bob.
Pete

 

[BattleshipBob]

Glad there's some better news about your FIL Bob.
Pete

Thanks Pete, been a rough week!

 

[peterairfix]

Looking good so far

 

[JR]

How do you stick the deck down please ?

 

[BattleshipBob]

How do you stick the deck down please ?

It has a self adhesive backing, and its very sticky lol. You really only have one chance. If theres a turret barbette its much easier to fit!

 

[BattleshipBob]

Started my first go at weathering, grime streaks on hull, not sure if they look ok or poo!!!!


Added wash to a turret, not happy!

Now added deck wash to the wooden deck, used thin layer then a dry cotton bud to remove some wash followed by another bud lighty dampened with turps, plan show some contrast and wear???

But does it work, looks a tad too dark when compared to a new deck?




Please remember all new too me, be merciful lol

Really new feedback folks before i do the others deck, help!!!!

 

[adt70hk]

Started my first go at weathering, grime streaks on hull, not sure if they look ok or poo!!!!
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Added wash to a turret, not happy!
View attachment 442476
Now added deck wash to the wooden deck, used thin layer then a dry cotton bud to remove some wash followed by another bud lighty dampened with turps, plan show some contrast and wear???

But does it work, looks a tad too dark when compared to a new deck?


View attachment 442477

Please remember all new too me, be merciful lol

Really new feedback folks before i do the others deck, help!!!!

Looking good Bob.....I assume during wartime it would not get the regular scrubbing it would do in peacetime... So no complaints from me, not that know....in any case I think at that scale the new deck looks too light...

Good to hear too that your father in law is improving.

ATB.

Andrew

 

[BattleshipBob]

Looking good Bob.....I assume during wartime it would not get the regular scrubbing it would do in peacetime... So no complaints from me, not that know....in any case I think at that scale the new deck looks too light...

Good to hear too that your father in law is improving.

ATB.

Andrew

Kind Andrew

Sadly called to hospital, now a matter of time, he deterorated this morning.